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Re: Song of the Moment: Amongst the Waves
Posted: Sun March 01, 2020 7:27 pm
by stip
Monkey_Driven wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:Awful song
Yup. Cringe worthy.

Re: Song of the Moment: Amongst the Waves
Posted: Sun March 01, 2020 7:32 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Song of the Moment: Amongst the Waves
Posted: Sun March 01, 2020 8:15 pm
by Hatfield
tragabigzanda wrote:hands-down worst song in the entire catalog. just top-to-bottom boring, derivative, uninspired songwriting.
Wrong.
Maybe I'm in the new album pre-glow, but when I've revisited Backspacer recently, it's felt much better than I thought it would based on the negativity here. It's pointless to single out members of the band who sound great on the album because they all do. Amongst the Waves doesn't have the chorus of Alive or Dissident, and I disagree with Harmless....I believe that is what they were going for......but it is still a really decent song.
Solid 3.5
Re: Song of the Moment: Amongst the Waves
Posted: Sun March 01, 2020 8:17 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Song of the Moment: Amongst the Waves
Posted: Sun March 01, 2020 8:22 pm
by Hatfield
tragabigzanda wrote:it's hollow manufactured garbage
Are we in the Force of Nature thread?
Re: Song of the Moment: Amongst the Waves
Posted: Sun March 01, 2020 9:06 pm
by Bammer
Hatfield wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:it's hollow manufactured garbage
Are we in the Force of Nature thread?
Nope the Unthought Known thread
Re: Song of the Moment: Amongst the Waves
Posted: Sun March 01, 2020 9:09 pm
by Ms Harmless
understand,
Re: Song of the Moment: Amongst the Waves
Posted: Sun March 01, 2020 9:10 pm
by oneway23
The themes of resilience & redemption resonate strongly with me on this one.
Holy alliteration, Batman!
When I think about where I was and some of the choices I was making before I got together with my wife, this one holds a special place for me.
Are they aping themselves a bit musically with this one? Maybe so, but, I'd much rather listen to them do it than I would anyone else.
Re: Song of the Moment: Amongst the Waves
Posted: Sun March 01, 2020 9:45 pm
by stip
the verses really dont sound like much else in the catalog. in hiding, maybe?
Re: Song of the Moment: Amongst the Waves
Posted: Sun March 01, 2020 9:48 pm
by oneway23
stip wrote:the verses really dont sound like much else in the catalog. in hiding, maybe?
I really like the chord shapes/progression in the verses. The lyrics do a good job of solidifying the feeling that he music evokes.
When I talk about them maybe "aping" themselves a bit, it's really just in terms of the band playing around with the anthemic, "mid-tempo-itis" that they'd consciously avoided for so long, In Hiding & Faithful being two other examples.
Re: Song of the Moment: Amongst the Waves
Posted: Sun March 01, 2020 9:52 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
It's them trying to make some "alt rock" anthemic piece of shit that was popular at the time with the pre-hipster crowd. I cringe every time I hear the chorus.
Re: Song of the Moment: Amongst the Waves
Posted: Sun March 01, 2020 10:06 pm
by PHATJ
stip wrote:This is a good song. Good, but not great.
The important thing, as PhatJ has said many times (and I agree), is that it's a better song than Sleight of Hand.

lol, omg, fu stip

Re: Song of the Moment: Amongst the Waves
Posted: Mon March 02, 2020 12:24 am
by EJ
It's always sounded like a forced song to me.
Re: Song of the Moment: Amongst the Waves
Posted: Wed March 04, 2020 10:15 pm
by guitar_davey
stip wrote:This is a good song. Good, but not great.
The important thing, as PhatJ has said many times (and I agree), is that it's a better song than Sleight of Hand.
I love ATW, but to me, it's got nowhere near the mystique or gravity of Sleight of Hand, which is one of my all-time favourites. Shame that the one time I saw it live, Ed forgot the entire second verse (Montreal 2011 I think?).
Re: Song of the Moment: Amongst the Waves
Posted: Thu March 05, 2020 4:35 am
by PHATJ
guitar_davey wrote:stip wrote:This is a good song. Good, but not great.
The important thing, as PhatJ has said many times (and I agree), is that it's a better song than Sleight of Hand.
I love ATW, but to me, it's got nowhere near the mystique or gravity of Sleight of Hand, which is one of my all-time favourites. Shame that the one time I saw it live, Ed forgot the entire second verse (Montreal 2011 I think?).
For the record, I think Sleight of Hand is PJ’s best song. And stip knows it.
Re: Song of the Moment: Amongst the Waves
Posted: Thu March 05, 2020 6:57 pm
by Clem Halibut
This song attempts greatness but fails
Re: Song of the Moment: Amongst the Waves
Posted: Fri March 06, 2020 2:03 pm
by stip
PHATJ wrote:guitar_davey wrote:stip wrote:This is a good song. Good, but not great.
The important thing, as PhatJ has said many times (and I agree), is that it's a better song than Sleight of Hand.
I love ATW, but to me, it's got nowhere near the mystique or gravity of Sleight of Hand, which is one of my all-time favourites. Shame that the one time I saw it live, Ed forgot the entire second verse (Montreal 2011 I think?).
For the record, I think Sleight of Hand is PJ’s best song. And stip knows it.
i know that you think a lot of things, yes
Re: Song of the Moment: Amongst the Waves
Posted: Sat March 07, 2020 7:21 am
by PHATJ
stip wrote:PHATJ wrote:guitar_davey wrote:stip wrote:This is a good song. Good, but not great.
The important thing, as PhatJ has said many times (and I agree), is that it's a better song than Sleight of Hand.
I love ATW, but to me, it's got nowhere near the mystique or gravity of Sleight of Hand, which is one of my all-time favourites. Shame that the one time I saw it live, Ed forgot the entire second verse (Montreal 2011 I think?).
For the record, I think Sleight of Hand is PJ’s best song. And stip knows it.
i know that you think a lot of things, yes

Re: Song of the Moment: Amongst the Waves
Posted: Sat March 07, 2020 7:22 am
by PHATJ
PHATJ wrote:stip wrote:PHATJ wrote:guitar_davey wrote:stip wrote:This is a good song. Good, but not great.
The important thing, as PhatJ has said many times (and I agree), is that it's a better song than Sleight of Hand.
I love ATW, but to me, it's got nowhere near the mystique or gravity of Sleight of Hand, which is one of my all-time favourites. Shame that the one time I saw it live, Ed forgot the entire second verse (Montreal 2011 I think?).
For the record, I think Sleight of Hand is PJ’s best song. And stip knows it.
i know that you think a lot of things, yes

Sleight of Hand 4evva

Re: Song of the Moment: Amongst the Waves
Posted: Mon March 09, 2020 12:55 am
by Matters
Best song on Backspacer, cheese and all. Ed’s delivery makes up for the lyrics which aren’t that bad anyway. Mike’s solo is the best moment on the album. Why do people feel it’s out of place? Waves can be unpredictable, duh.
