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Re: books/essays about grunge
Posted: Wed November 13, 2013 12:21 am
by Sgt. Crackpot
super nintendo chalmers wrote:It's not a book, but Hype! should be all they need.
Yarms book is good too. What little I read of it.
Spot on SNC. I've still got my old VHS copy of Hype!. It's pretty damn good. I haven't watched it in a while, but I clearly remember one of the teenagers they interviewed at a festival complaining that too many people were now into grunge, and he was pissed because he was into it
first. He was a grunge hipster.
It had a classic Ed quote too:
I mean, you hear a song that's a great song; play it a million times, you never want to hear it again... "If I hear that song one more time... if I see that guy's face one more time... I'm gonna fuckin find out his address and kill that motherfucker!" I don't blame 'em. I've said it myself.
Re: books/essays about grunge
Posted: Wed November 13, 2013 3:25 am
by tattooedeverything
There's also a book called Strangest Tribe: How A Group of Seattle Rock Bands Invented Grunge by Stephen Tow.
Re: books/essays about grunge
Posted: Wed November 13, 2013 3:26 am
by Jorge
Welcome to the board, Mr. Tow.
Re: books/essays about grunge
Posted: Wed November 13, 2013 3:28 am
by Fuzzcharger
tattooedeverything wrote:There's also a book called Strangest Tribe: How A Group of Seattle Rock Bands Invented Grunge by Stephen Tow.
I really enjoyed this. It was a bit academic in tone compared to the Mark Yarm and Greg? Prato books but it gave much better coverage of the pre-Nevermind Seattle. I think all 3 provide comprehensive coverage with a good spread of interviewees.
Re: books/essays about grunge
Posted: Wed November 13, 2013 3:36 am
by MattA75
stip wrote:A friend of mine is teaching a class on the idea of 'cool' and he's structuring the course around major trends decade by decade. A lot of the class will be on music. He asked me if there are any key books or essays on grunge. Are there?
I don't remember what was actually in the article, but would the infamous Time magazine article work? Being that it was written in the middle of the height of it?
Re: books/essays about grunge
Posted: Wed November 13, 2013 6:36 am
by William Bloke
I already won this thread and no-one even realises it.
Pfft.
Re: books/essays about grunge
Posted: Wed November 13, 2013 7:29 am
by Birds in Hell
warehouse wrote:bada wrote:harmless wrote:
Holy shit, that article is pessimistic.
I thought it was good until it started praising the Foo Fighters for "brightness" and "grunge transcendence" (what's that?).
Yeah the problem is grunge isn't a real sub genre. Most bands that one might put under that moniker don't really have much in common. So saying grunge has no shelf life is kinda dumb because it was never a real thing. The term grunge never really mattered. Those bands were different degrees on the rock dial. Calling them alt rock seems more appropriate. Unless you wanna say that the alt rock late 80s early 90s Seattle scene is called grunge in which case it would be pretty unlikely for it to continue forever unless the expectation is that every band in that geographic location is forever required to pick one of the big four bands from that era and do their impression.
i was about to say, "grunge" is more location based. alt rock or pop punk is probably what i think as "cool" music genres of the early/mid 90s.
Yeah, if a band didn't come out of the Pacific Northwest 80s underground music scene, I don't think they can rightly be considered "grunge". As absurd as that term is, it's entirely meaningless when it's applied to bands that have nothing to do with that regional scene.
Pearl Jam themselves are kind of post-grunge.
Re: books/essays about grunge
Posted: Wed November 13, 2013 7:35 am
by Sgt. Crackpot
Varis wrote:I already won this thread and no-one even realises it.
Pfft.
You won the entire Internets long ago, man. We're still coming to terms with that.
Re: books/essays about grunge
Posted: Wed November 13, 2013 10:48 am
by William Bloke
It's OK though, I'll still let you guys post if you wanna.
Re: books/essays about grunge
Posted: Wed November 13, 2013 6:32 pm
by warehouse
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:super nintendo chalmers wrote:It's not a book, but Hype! should be all they need.
Yarms book is good too. What little I read of it.
Spot on SNC. I've still got my old VHS copy of Hype!. It's pretty damn good. I haven't watched it in a while, but I clearly remember one of the teenagers they interviewed at a festival complaining that too many people were now into grunge, and he was pissed because he was into it
first. He was a grunge hipster.
It had a classic Ed quote too:
I mean, you hear a song that's a great song; play it a million times, you never want to hear it again... "If I hear that song one more time... if I see that guy's face one more time... I'm gonna fuckin find out his address and kill that motherfucker!" I don't blame 'em. I've said it myself.
this was the height of eddie vedder's weirdo days
i still cant over the fact that a guy named Mark
Yarm wrote a book about grunge
Re: books/essays about grunge
Posted: Wed November 13, 2013 6:48 pm
by VinylGuy
warehouse wrote:Sgt. Crackpot wrote:super nintendo chalmers wrote:It's not a book, but Hype! should be all they need.
Yarms book is good too. What little I read of it.
Spot on SNC. I've still got my old VHS copy of Hype!. It's pretty damn good. I haven't watched it in a while, but I clearly remember one of the teenagers they interviewed at a festival complaining that too many people were now into grunge, and he was pissed because he was into it
first. He was a grunge hipster.
It had a classic Ed quote too:
I mean, you hear a song that's a great song; play it a million times, you never want to hear it again... "If I hear that song one more time... if I see that guy's face one more time... I'm gonna fuckin find out his address and kill that motherfucker!" I don't blame 'em. I've said it myself.
this was the height of eddie vedder's weirdo days
i still cant over the fact that a guy named Mark
Yarm wrote a book about grunge
I remember thinking Mark Arm??
The tumblr for that book is pretty cool.
Re: books/essays about grunge
Posted: Wed November 13, 2013 8:18 pm
by bada
warehouse wrote:this was the height of eddie vedder's trying too hard days
Re: books/essays about grunge
Posted: Wed November 13, 2013 8:22 pm
by super nintendo chalmers
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:super nintendo chalmers wrote:It's not a book, but Hype! should be all they need.
Yarms book is good too. What little I read of it.
Spot on SNC. I've still got my old VHS copy of Hype!. It's pretty damn good. I haven't watched it in a while, but I clearly remember one of the teenagers they interviewed at a festival complaining that too many people were now into grunge, and he was pissed because he was into it
first. He was a grunge hipster.
It had a classic Ed quote too:
I mean, you hear a song that's a great song; play it a million times, you never want to hear it again... "If I hear that song one more time... if I see that guy's face one more time... I'm gonna fuckin find out his address and kill that motherfucker!" I don't blame 'em. I've said it myself.
Mama SNC took me to that movie in the theater Veterans Day 1996. Went and got the soundtrack afterwards.
Still ain't right.
Re: books/essays about grunge
Posted: Thu November 14, 2013 6:24 pm
by warehouse
bada wrote:warehouse wrote:this was the height of eddie vedder's trying too hard days
u think he tried to get that chick to drive her car into his house?
Re: books/essays about grunge
Posted: Fri November 15, 2013 3:50 am
by tattooedeverything
theplatypus wrote:Welcome to the board, Mr. Tow.
So if I mention someone's book, it's a plug and I'm the author? OK...
The Yarm and Prato books had already been mentioned and I knew of a third one, so I thought I'd post it. Just trying to help the OP.
Re: books/essays about grunge
Posted: Fri November 15, 2013 3:51 am
by Jorge
tattooedeverything wrote:theplatypus wrote:Welcome to the board, Mr. Tow.
So if I mention someone's book, it's a plug and I'm the author? OK...
The Yarm and Prato books had already been mentioned and I knew of a third one, so I thought I'd post it. Just trying to help the OP.
It was a joke. (☞゚∀゚)☞
Re: books/essays about grunge
Posted: Fri November 15, 2013 4:28 am
by tattooedeverything
Well, I kinda figured. Sorry about that. It's just that I've seen people on the internet do what you did, but in complete seriousness.
Re: books/essays about grunge
Posted: Fri November 15, 2013 4:43 am
by VinylGuy
tattooedeverything wrote:Well, I kinda figured. Sorry about that. It's just that I've seen people on the internet do what you did, but in complete seriousness.
Im sure he was serious.
He is sending PMs to the mods asking if they know who are you.
Re: books/essays about grunge
Posted: Fri November 15, 2013 4:54 am
by tattooedeverything
OK, I get it. I did a dumb thing by bringing it up.

Re: books/essays about grunge
Posted: Fri November 15, 2013 5:03 am
by Jorge
tattooedeverything wrote:OK, I get it. I did a dumb thing by bringing it up.

It's all good
