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Re: Into the Wild: Official Album Thread

Posted: Sun June 28, 2015 5:23 pm
by LetMeSleep
I'm amazed Ed hasn't done a solo album with other musicians yet. He could assemble an amazing band of either session guys or guests.

Re: Into the Wild: Official Album Thread

Posted: Sun June 28, 2015 5:43 pm
by VinylGuy
Sure. But the fsct he did ITW all alone and it was his solo debut its still astonishing for me.

Re: Into the Wild: Official Album Thread

Posted: Sun June 28, 2015 5:53 pm
by LetMeSleep
VinylGuy wrote:Sure. But the fsct he did ITW all alone and it was his solo debut its still astonishing for me.
Oh yeah, for sure.

Re: Into the Wild: Official Album Thread

Posted: Sun June 28, 2015 6:17 pm
by Birds in Hell
stip wrote:I think I like this album more than at least 3 pearl jam albums.
I do too (different albums though, I expect).

Re: Into the Wild: Official Album Thread

Posted: Sun June 28, 2015 6:18 pm
by Norah
Birds in Hell wrote:
stip wrote:I think I like this album more than at least 3 pearl jam albums.
I do too (different albums though, I expect).
Me too.

Re: Into the Wild: Official Album Thread

Posted: Sun June 28, 2015 6:29 pm
by Leatherhead
LetMeSleep wrote:I don't think I've heard this CD since seeing movie. What a self obsessed, privileged lil shite.

Must break this out for another listen.
I've never seen the movie, but love the album. Plan to keep it that way.

Re: Into the Wild: Official Album Thread

Posted: Sun June 28, 2015 6:41 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Into the Wild: Official Album Thread

Posted: Mon June 29, 2015 1:22 am
by digster
I like this record, though at times it seems a little half-baked (though that may be due to the constraints Ed was under in terms of writing). I feel like it falls off somewhat after Hard Sun, and to me that song's the highlight of the record with a bullet.

Re: Into the Wild: Official Album Thread

Posted: Mon June 29, 2015 1:45 am
by Strat
I have never once considered no more or heres to the state or whatever as part of into the wild. Ever.

Re: Into the Wild: Official Album Thread

Posted: Mon June 29, 2015 2:20 am
by Kaius
I don't even know those songs.

Re: Into the Wild: Official Album Thread

Posted: Mon June 29, 2015 2:23 am
by Birds in Hell
Strat wrote:I have never once considered no more or heres to the state or whatever as part of into the wild. Ever.
Nor have I. Even if they were thrown in as bonus tracks with the digital download, they're clearly not part of the album proper.

I don't think I've ever heard Here's to the State... and I'm in no rush to fix that.

Re: Into the Wild: Official Album Thread

Posted: Mon June 29, 2015 2:48 am
by Jorge
"Hard Sun" is good. "No Ceiling" is good. "Society" is good. The rest is whatever.

Re: Into the Wild: Official Album Thread

Posted: Mon June 29, 2015 2:49 am
by Birds in Hell
Long Nights? That's a good 'un.

Re: Into the Wild: Official Album Thread

Posted: Mon June 29, 2015 3:35 am
by Kevin Davis
stip wrote:Here's to the state is a perfectly fine song for what it is. Like here's to the state, no more is a genre exercise, but one that is an insipid failure
"Here's to the State" is fucking ridiculous -- it reminds me of a song that a high school kid would write about his teachers. I get that at some point protest music has to cut the crap and just come out and say what it means, but it's no surprise that when your composition favors message over artistry, the artistry suffers. The song makes Eddie sound the same way his political rants do -- like a simpleton with a chip on his shoulder.

Plus I have an unreasonable distaste for any songs that use phrases like "here's to..." or "this one goes out to..." or "this song's for..." in the lyrics.

Re: Into the Wild: Official Album Thread

Posted: Mon June 29, 2015 10:00 am
by stip
It's actually a modified cover of a Phil Ochs song, just with updated references. The lyrics are obvious. The melody is nice, and the chorus is really satisfying. It's an artifact of its time, but as a member of that songs target audience, it felt refreshing. Not profound or inspiring, but still enjoyable to hear. Live especially, since it felt shared, which is really important for a song like this. The studio version I've listened to maybe once.

The original is better

Re: Into the Wild: Official Album Thread

Posted: Mon June 29, 2015 10:01 am
by stip
Guaranteed, far behind, and rise are also very good.

Re: Into the Wild: Official Album Thread

Posted: Mon June 29, 2015 12:04 pm
by WtOB?
theplatypus wrote:"Hard Sun" is good. "No Ceiling" is good. "Society" is good. The rest is whatever.
fucking long nights m8. best 1.

Re: Into the Wild: Official Album Thread

Posted: Mon June 29, 2015 12:06 pm
by WtOB?
no doubt this is my favourite post-riot act pj-related release. this is more an answer to riot act than avid cado is.

Re: Into the Wild: Official Album Thread

Posted: Mon June 29, 2015 2:35 pm
by Jorge
I don't like "Guaranteed" or "Far Behind" at all. Especially "Guaranteed", which is a 20-second melody stretched out to song length. Don't know about "Long Nights". I'll listen again today

Re: Into the Wild: Official Album Thread

Posted: Mon June 29, 2015 2:59 pm
by Kevin Davis
stip wrote:It's actually a modified cover of a Phil Ochs song, just with updated references. The lyrics are obvious. The melody is nice, and the chorus is really satisfying. It's an artifact of its time, but as a member of that songs target audience, it felt refreshing. Not profound or inspiring, but still enjoyable to hear. Live especially, since it felt shared, which is really important for a song like this. The studio version I've listened to maybe once.

The original is better
Maybe this is part of it. Unless I've misinterpreted your political leanings over the years, it doesn't seem like you -- someone who probably agrees with most of what the song says anyway -- really should be part of this song's target audience, even though it's obvious that you are. I get that the resistance needs fight songs and all that, but I can never escape the feeling that these kinds of songs are con jobs of sorts, using confrontational, inflammatory language to give the audience the illusion that they're participating in something vital and provocative, despite the fact that the singer is already reasonably sure that an overwhelming majority of his audience has pre-approved the message of the song. This song was the absolute low point of the show when I saw it live, its hollow "shared moment" feeling like a self-congratulatory applause grab no different from "made it to the ocean, smoked a joint in a tree."