2012 NFL Playoffs

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Who are the teams in Super Bowl XLVII?

Harbaugh Bowl (BAL/SF)
11
42%
Gonzalez/Lewis Retirement Party (BAL/ATL)
2
8%
Brady's Bay Area Revenge (NE/SF)
13
50%
Rematch Guaranteed in 2013 Season (NE/ATL)
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Green Habit wrote:
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spike wrote: :finger:
Thoughtful.
Well, he is a Packers fan, so what did you expect? I'd trust you'd do the same for an analysis by a Packers fan.
Although my post was written from the perspective of a Vikings fan, I don't think a level headed and rational person would disagree with my analysis.

I just realized my fatal flaw. I expected a Packer fan to be level headed and rational. We all know that's not possible when it comes to delusional, perpetually drunken, 'Sconies.
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spike wrote:
PHATJ wrote:I'm hoping for a huge Vikings upset over the Pack on Saturday night, but I still can't believe they won 10 games this year after only winning 3 last season. Christian Ponder is a complete question mark. He has had some good moments but his several bad games have been historically bad. Adrian Peterson is a super human freak and should be the league MVP. The Vikings would have won 3-5 games this year without his amazing season to carry the load.

The only way I see a Vikings win is for Adrian to put up 150-200 yards and a couple scores and for the Vikings defense to manage to slow down the pass attack of the Packers enough to keep the score in the 20s. This will take a consistently heavy pass rush and for the defensive backs to play at their highest level. I am also hoping for some of the wintery weather conditions Lambeau is known for. This may help slow down Green Bay's passing game and shouldn't be a problem for the Vikings running game.

I am fully aware that this is a lot to hope for but it is possible. AP has already put up 407 rushing yards in two games vs. GB this season. The Vikings pass rush can be elite. And weather conditions could easily be a factor. A lot of this game may ride on the MN secondary, which isn't a great thought for a Vikings fan (especially since I am unsure of the status of A. Winfield who broke his hand in last weeks win over GB). And as always, turnovers will be a major factor.

I'd give my club about a 30% to 40% chance of winning and I'll be thrilled if it actually happens. Go Vikes!
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PHATJ wrote:Although my post was written from the perspective of a Vikings fan, I don't think a level headed and rational person would disagree with my analysis.
I'm certain that we disagree on who should be the MVP. :twisted:
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Green Habit wrote:
PHATJ wrote:Although my post was written from the perspective of a Vikings fan, I don't think a level headed and rational person would disagree with my analysis.
I'm certain that we disagree on who should be the MVP. :twisted:
my feeling is they both have equal claim to the MVP and since Peyton already has a few then Peterson should get this one :lol:
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Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
PHATJ wrote:Although my post was written from the perspective of a Vikings fan, I don't think a level headed and rational person would disagree with my analysis.
I'm certain that we disagree on who should be the MVP. :twisted:
my feeling is they both have equal claim to the MVP and since Peyton already has a few then Peterson should get this one :lol:

Of course Rodgers had just as good a season as Manning (team record aside), but of course Rodgers isn't even in the realm of discussion. I guess when you're the greatest, you have astronomically high standards ;)
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Harry Lime wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
PHATJ wrote:Although my post was written from the perspective of a Vikings fan, I don't think a level headed and rational person would disagree with my analysis.
I'm certain that we disagree on who should be the MVP. :twisted:
my feeling is they both have equal claim to the MVP and since Peyton already has a few then Peterson should get this one :lol:

Of course Rodgers had just as good a season as Manning (team record aside), but of course Rodgers isn't even in the realm of discussion. I guess when you're the greatest, you have astronomically high standards ;)
difference in Peterson/Manning and Rogers, is the Broncos and Vikings greatly improved their records from last year and the Packers went from 15-1 to what 11-5, so that how he gets dropped from the discussion, not right but im pretty sure its the reason. but as far as MVP goes, you take the 3 of them off their teams and they will all be drastically worse, so they are all MVPs because of that.
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I can't believe we lost the GrimmaceXX eating crow thread . . .
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Chris_H_2 wrote:I can't believe we lost the GrimmaceXX eating crow thread . . .
brink it back if you want to, start a new one and link the old one in the header post
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Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:I can't believe we lost the GrimmaceXX eating crow thread . . .
brink it back if you want to, start a new one and link the old one in the header post
While I applaud your confidence, that's expecting a lot of sophistication from someone with only 8 posts.

I think I'll wait until after the Patriots are eliminated.
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Final FO DVOA rankings for the playoff teams:

1.) SEA 38.3
2.) DEN 36.6
3.) NE 34.9
4.) SF 29.9
5.) GB 26.6
8.) BAL 9.8
9.) WAS 9.6
10.) ATL 9.1
11.) HOU 6.6
12.) CIN 6.1
14.) MIN 2.0
25.) IND -16.0

Both the metrics and my gut make me think that one of those top 5 teams is walking away with the title. Denver and New England have the highest odds by FO's metrics, followed by the two NFC West teams, ATL (who I am not backing at all) and GB. Some interesting tidbits: SEA, DEN, and NE finished as the 6th, 8th and 11th best teams FO has measured since 1991, in that order. SEA and DEN are two of the most improved teams they have measured in the same time span. IND finishes as the worst 11-5 team they've measured since 1991.

My pick for the conference championships and Super Bowl:

New England at Denver
Seattle at Green Bay

Denver 23-20 Seattle
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Chris_H_2 wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:I can't believe we lost the GrimmaceXX eating crow thread . . .
brink it back if you want to, start a new one and link the old one in the header post
While I applaud your confidence, that's expecting a lot of sophistication from someone with only 8 posts.

I think I'll wait until after the Patriots are eliminated.
If J88ryan makes an account on the new board I'm sure that he'll be eager to restart the Boston Losers thread again....

If it's the Broncos doing the eliminating then I might actually support it this time.
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Orpheus wrote:Final FO DVOA rankings for the playoff teams:

1.) SEA 38.3
2.) DEN 36.6
3.) NE 34.9
4.) SF 29.9
5.) GB 26.6
8.) BAL 9.8
9.) WAS 9.6
10.) ATL 9.1
11.) HOU 6.6
12.) CIN 6.1
14.) MIN 2.0
25.) IND -16.0

Both the metrics and my gut make me think that one of those top 5 teams is walking away with the title. Denver and New England have the highest odds by FO's metrics, followed by the two NFC West teams, ATL (who I am not backing at all) and GB. Some interesting tidbits: SEA, DEN, and NE finished as the 6th, 8th and 11th best teams FO has measured since 1991, in that order. SEA and DEN are two of the most improved teams they have measured in the same time span. IND finishes as the worst 11-5 team they've measured since 1991.

My pick for the conference championships and Super Bowl:

New England at Denver
Seattle at Green Bay

Denver 23-20 Seattle
Seattle going into Green Bay and winning after that inexcusable outcome in Week 3? You got some nerve, buddy.
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They harassed the shit out of Rodgers in that first game and are much better on offense since then. I think GB has enough to beat most of the NFC teams but the team Seattle has built is really potent. I just really like their chances.

But of course now that I've said this they'll get beaten in the first round.
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Harry Lime wrote:
Orpheus wrote:Final FO DVOA rankings for the playoff teams:

1.) SEA 38.3
2.) DEN 36.6
3.) NE 34.9
4.) SF 29.9
5.) GB 26.6
8.) BAL 9.8
9.) WAS 9.6
10.) ATL 9.1
11.) HOU 6.6
12.) CIN 6.1
14.) MIN 2.0
25.) IND -16.0

Both the metrics and my gut make me think that one of those top 5 teams is walking away with the title. Denver and New England have the highest odds by FO's metrics, followed by the two NFC West teams, ATL (who I am not backing at all) and GB. Some interesting tidbits: SEA, DEN, and NE finished as the 6th, 8th and 11th best teams FO has measured since 1991, in that order. SEA and DEN are two of the most improved teams they have measured in the same time span. IND finishes as the worst 11-5 team they've measured since 1991.

My pick for the conference championships and Super Bowl:

New England at Denver
Seattle at Green Bay

Denver 23-20 Seattle
Seattle going into Green Bay and winning after that inexcusable outcome in Week 3? You got some nerve, buddy.
If Green Bay hosts Seattle in the NFC Championship and gets beat by the Seahawks ... then they just have to stop bitching about the Hail Mary. They can't ask for a better opportunity to right that wrong.
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If you guys are interested, here's my pick'em blog column for the week. Went 15-1 last week, .704 for the season.

http://capenews.net/blogs/maclones_musi ... d-weekend/
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For today's games I'm going Houston and Green Bay.

I'd love to see Cinci pull out the win. I like Andy Dalton a lot. A lot. And I'd like to see him advance his team.
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Im also going with houston and green bay, i think green bay is mad about missing out on the bye week and are going to try to run up the score on the vikes, houston and cinci should be a good game though.
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Thanks christ that real football is on today.

Cinnci & Green Bay!
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What is so great about Seattle again that everyone thinks they are some juggernaut now?

They beat down San Francisco without Justin Smith on national TV so they are great now? Give me a break, they are 0-8 in road playoff games for a few reasons and their head coach is still a phony douchebag. The rest of us have seen Russell Wilson since he was being wasted in the ACC by Tom O Brien. We know he can play. I wonder if they can come from behind.

I'm not sure I buy anyone in the NFC right now. Lot of good teams, and everyone is flawed.

Im glad I was right about Cincinnati in the preseason but I think it's hard to bet against Manning and Brady playing for the right to go to the Superbowl again.
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Electromatic wrote:What is so great about Seattle again that everyone thinks they are some juggernaut now?

They beat down San Francisco without Justin Smith on national TV so they are great now? Give me a break, they are 0-8 in road playoff games for a few reasons and their head coach is still a phony douchebag. The rest of us have seen Russell Wilson since he was being wasted in the ACC by Tom O Brien. We know he can play. I wonder if they can come from behind.

I'm not sure I buy anyone in the NFC right now. Lot of good teams, and everyone is flawed.

Im glad I was right about Cincinnati in the preseason but I think it's hard to bet against Manning and Brady playing for the right to go to the Superbowl again.
I think what has Seattle so high on everyones lists at the moment are the blow out wins they had 3 weeks in a row, but their D is nasty, Marshawn is expected to be in Beast mode as usual. I like them, but i like washington also, should be a fun game
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