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Re: Affluenza

Posted: Thu December 12, 2013 11:07 pm
by BurtReynolds
surfndestroy wrote:If this judgement were given to a black kid from a troubled home in a run down part of town, you'd probably be applauding the decision. Saying finally contributing factors were taken into account, he's only 16, he's going to rehab and is on a long parole.

I think the decision sucks. At the very least he should be in juvie jail until 18 and then with the same restictions afterwards. But if this is where you want justice for minors to get to, thismay be a poor first start but a start none the less.
yeah no.

Re: Affluenza

Posted: Fri December 13, 2013 12:43 am
by stip
Every day a poor black kid doesn't shoot a bunch of white kids I die a little inside...

Re: Affluenza

Posted: Fri December 13, 2013 1:49 am
by malice
Whitey McTeeth wrote:He can't go to jail for 20 years, I'm sure his future executive job skills will be needed.
he'll likely learn a lot of executive job skills in prison...

Re: Affluenza

Posted: Fri December 13, 2013 2:20 am
by verb_to_trust
Hugs not handcuffs.

If only he was 20 instead of 17. The juvenile justice system is essentially evolving to the point there is no accountability at all and any type of negative behavior can be excused. At least that is how things are in the People's Republic of Illinois....I know several states (Tennessee, for example) that by comparison do not fuck around.

Anyway, fuck this kid.

Re: Affluenza

Posted: Fri December 13, 2013 2:46 am
by Sgt. Crackpot
If they firmly believe that it's the parent's fault for bringing their son up to be an idiot, then jail the parents.

Re: Affluenza

Posted: Fri December 13, 2013 11:19 am
by stip
Bring on the civil lawsuits!

Re: Affluenza

Posted: Fri December 13, 2013 2:19 pm
by mookie
I know a kid that suffers from this disease. She's not rich though - just raised to believe she's allowed to be the center of her own universe.

Re: Affluenza

Posted: Fri December 13, 2013 2:24 pm
by mookie
"poor man's affluenza."
Spoiler: show
The way that our educational systems work in the US is absolutely ridiculous. I can't afford to pay for an education that will allow me to move up into a better social class, but at the same time earning $10 an hour qualifies me as making "too much" to receive assistance with this process. I work full time to support myself AND go to school full time with an almost perfect GPA and this is how the govt rewards people like me? Frustrating to say the least.
this is how I am rewarded. REWARDED.


EVERYONE GETS A TROPHY.

Re: Affluenza

Posted: Fri December 13, 2013 2:38 pm
by McParadigm
mookie wrote:"poor man's affluenza."
Spoiler: show
The way that our educational systems work in the US is absolutely ridiculous. I can't afford to pay for an education that will allow me to move up into a better social class, but at the same time earning $10 an hour qualifies me as making "too much" to receive assistance with this process. I work full time to support myself AND go to school full time with an almost perfect GPA and this is how the govt rewards people like me? Frustrating to say the least.
this is how I am rewarded. REWARDED.


EVERYONE GETS A TROPHY.
So basically if they'd used the word "perceives" or "compartmentalizes," instead of "rewards," it wouldn't be a problem?

Re: Affluenza

Posted: Fri December 13, 2013 3:03 pm
by mookie
McParadigm wrote:
mookie wrote:"poor man's affluenza."
Spoiler: show
The way that our educational systems work in the US is absolutely ridiculous. I can't afford to pay for an education that will allow me to move up into a better social class, but at the same time earning $10 an hour qualifies me as making "too much" to receive assistance with this process. I work full time to support myself AND go to school full time with an almost perfect GPA and this is how the govt rewards people like me? Frustrating to say the least.
this is how I am rewarded. REWARDED.


EVERYONE GETS A TROPHY.
So basically if they'd used the word "perceives" or "compartmentalizes," instead of "rewards," it wouldn't be a problem?

Probably. Because that would be an exhibit of one's consciousness of the greater picture. I feel like it was an immature statement. And that's what this affluenza seems to be. Plain old immaturity that's relative to one's surroundings.



I can't wait until she pays taxes.

Re: Affluenza

Posted: Fri December 13, 2013 4:05 pm
by McParadigm
mookie wrote:And that's what this affluenza seems to be. Plain old immaturity that's relative to one's surroundings.
These people always have, like, the GREATEST divorces. So fun to watch.

Re: Affluenza

Posted: Fri December 13, 2013 4:09 pm
by broken iris
mookie wrote:I know a kid that suffers from this disease. She's not rich though - just raised to believe she's allowed to be the center of her own universe.
I don't think that's quite the same.

Re: Affluenza

Posted: Fri December 13, 2013 4:18 pm
by mookie
McParadigm wrote:
mookie wrote:And that's what this affluenza seems to be. Plain old immaturity that's relative to one's surroundings.
These people always have, like, the GREATEST divorces. So fun to watch.
Gimme gimme gimme.

Re: Affluenza

Posted: Fri December 13, 2013 4:24 pm
by mookie
broken iris wrote:
mookie wrote:I know a kid that suffers from this disease. She's not rich though - just raised to believe she's allowed to be the center of her own universe.
I don't think that's quite the same.
I feel like it is, but how do you figure it is not?

Re: Affluenza

Posted: Fri December 13, 2013 4:39 pm
by broken iris
mookie wrote:
broken iris wrote:
mookie wrote:I know a kid that suffers from this disease. She's not rich though - just raised to believe she's allowed to be the center of her own universe.
I don't think that's quite the same.
I feel like it is, but how do you figure it is not?
wikipedia wrote:Affluenza, a portmanteau of affluence and influenza, is a term used by critics of consumerism. The book Affluenza: The All-Consuming Epidemic defines it as "a painful, contagious, socially transmitted condition of overload, debt, anxiety and waste resulting from the dogged pursuit of more".[1]

Proponents of the term consider that the prizing of endless increases in material wealth may lead to feelings of worthlessness and dissatisfaction rather than experiences of a 'better life', and that these symptoms may be usefully captured with the metaphor of a disease. They claim some or even many of those who become wealthy will find the economic success leaving them unfulfilled and hungry only for more wealth, finding that they are unable to get pleasure from the things they buy and that increasingly material things may come to dominate their time and thoughts to the detriment of personal relationships and to feelings of happiness.

Re: Affluenza

Posted: Fri December 13, 2013 6:35 pm
by mookie
broken iris wrote:
mookie wrote:
broken iris wrote:
mookie wrote:I know a kid that suffers from this disease. She's not rich though - just raised to believe she's allowed to be the center of her own universe.
I don't think that's quite the same.
I feel like it is, but how do you figure it is not?
wikipedia wrote:Affluenza, a portmanteau of affluence and influenza, is a term used by critics of consumerism. The book Affluenza: The All-Consuming Epidemic defines it as "a painful, contagious, socially transmitted condition of overload, debt, anxiety and waste resulting from the dogged pursuit of more".[1]

Proponents of the term consider that the prizing of endless increases in material wealth may lead to feelings of worthlessness and dissatisfaction rather than experiences of a 'better life', and that these symptoms may be usefully captured with the metaphor of a disease. They claim some or even many of those who become wealthy will find the economic success leaving them unfulfilled and hungry only for more wealth, finding that they are unable to get pleasure from the things they buy and that increasingly material things may come to dominate their time and thoughts to the detriment of personal relationships and to feelings of happiness.
Maybe I feel differently because I have other details I'm considering that I haven't shared here.

By that definition, it's a older person's disease.

Re: Affluenza

Posted: Fri December 13, 2013 6:41 pm
by McParadigm
So the song Lightning Bolt by legendary rock band Pearl Jam is to affluenza what their classic hit Daughter was to dyslexia, and what their debut track Alive was to mother porking.

Re: Affluenza

Posted: Fri December 13, 2013 6:41 pm
by McParadigm
huh

Re: Affluenza

Posted: Fri December 13, 2013 6:48 pm
by mookie
I guess calling someone a "spoiled brat" is too narrow.

Re: Affluenza

Posted: Fri December 13, 2013 9:58 pm
by Lament
Things like this make me just wish the whole world would blow up.