Red Mosquito

no actor can truly flourish under the oppressive idiosyncrasies of tim burton

True.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bFzLRP8e4v ... FzLRP8e4vE

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

Alex wrote:to all of these people voting for keaton, i have one question for you: what the hell is your problem?

I went Kilmer as well.

I see that.

Or did I?

No. You didn't. I changed my vote so I could make that post.

bada wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:Bale has been the only Batman that has been physically imposing. His voice doesn't bother me.

Adam West could kick his ass.

Alex wrote:to all of these people voting for keaton, i have one question for you: what the hell is your problem?

he's the better batman

malice wrote:

Alex wrote:to all of these people voting for keaton, i have one question for you: what the hell is your problem?

he's the better batman

yeah, and the avocado album is the best pearl jam album

Christian Bale? growly voice, wet blanket, utterly boring Christian Bale? Are you fucking kidding me?

BurtReynolds wrote:Christian Bale? growly voice, wet blanket, utterly boring Christian Bale? Are you fucking kidding me?

if you think i don't have a thing for utterly boring wet blankets, you've conveniently forgotten that i'm pretty into lenny

Whitey McTeeth wrote:I win

You have not won anything,

Christian Bale or Kevin Conroy. Fuck Michael Keaton.

what a bunch of jerks you guys are

I love Michael Keaton though.

I liked Keaton as Batman, Bale is just a lot better.

The nice thing about Batman is he can fit any number of different molds like Sherlock Holmes or James Bond. I'm not sure it's possible to have a definitive version but if you have a checklist of classic Batman characteristics Bale's Batman misses a lot of them. I really like the movies and the portrayal works within that universe but Bale's version was basically a rich guy who could take a punch. He outsourced mostly everything else to Alfred and Lucius Fox. It's a cool well made version but I wouldn't hold it up as the best. The DCAU Batman is the closest to my personal perfect version. Put Kevin Conroy up there!

I didn't vote for him, and I only saw the movie once and could be completely wrong, but I liked George Clooney as Batman. It was everything else that was horrid.

bada wrote:The nice thing about Batman is he can fit any number of different molds like Sherlock Holmes or James Bond. I'm not sure it's possible to have a definitive version but if you have a checklist of classic Batman characteristics Bale's Batman misses a lot of them. I really like the movies and the portrayal works within that universe but Bale's version was basically a rich guy who could take a punch. He outsourced mostly everything else to Alfred and Lucius Fox. It's a cool well made version but I wouldn't hold it up as the best. The DCAU Batman is the closest to my personal perfect version. Put Kevin Conroy up there!

I liked the outsourcing. It made the character more 'realistic'. There are only so many hours in the day to be good at everything.

Bruce Wayne IS a rich guy who can take a punch. His super power is privilege. That's why Robin is going to fail.

Ben Affleck for sure

my only argument about why Keaton is a better batman is that the Dark Knight stuff was the first I'd ever seen of Batman as a troubled and tortured super hero - I'm not much of an expert, but assume that was the first anyone had done batman in that way?

so for me, Keaton was the personification of that idea - even though I feel it was dumbed down a bit for a movie audience - or not so much dumbed down, but made more movie audience friendly for the time.
since google tells me the first Batman movie came out in 1989, that approach to batman was completely new (at least to me) and will always stand as the best representation for batman as a dark tragic hero.

if they could have made the Christian Bale batman movies then - I'd agree - but movies weren't made that dark and violent for a large mainstream audience of comic book lovers then, not in my mind anyway.
The only way I'd known batman before that was Adam West and the Super Friends cartoons on Saturday mornings. quite the contrast...

stip wrote:

bada wrote:The nice thing about Batman is he can fit any number of different molds like Sherlock Holmes or James Bond. I'm not sure it's possible to have a definitive version but if you have a checklist of classic Batman characteristics Bale's Batman misses a lot of them. I really like the movies and the portrayal works within that universe but Bale's version was basically a rich guy who could take a punch. He outsourced mostly everything else to Alfred and Lucius Fox. It's a cool well made version but I wouldn't hold it up as the best. The DCAU Batman is the closest to my personal perfect version. Put Kevin Conroy up there!

I liked the outsourcing. It made the character more 'realistic'. There are only so many hours in the day to be good at everything.

Bruce Wayne IS a rich guy who can take a punch. His super power is privilege. That's why Robin is going to fail.

take it to the N&D forum, class warrior

Clooney was alright. The Dark Knight is THE Batman movie for me, but Christian Bale might be the most overrated actor of this generation.