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Re: Match BC: Sonic Reducer vs. Sleeping By Myself
Posted: Mon March 10, 2014 3:38 pm
by Mine
McParadigm wrote:Mine wrote: 
tell me what do you feel about the 60's where you had people like Nina Simone, Janis Joplin and The Bee Gees covering the same song within a couple of years, or Otis Redding, The Rolling Stones, Aretha Franklin, Ike&Tina doing the same with a different one, Or for instance Aretha and Otis covering Same Cooke, or Aretha covering Nina, or Sam Cooke and The Doors recording the same song? Are all of those to be dismissed on principle? I'm confused because i think there's some good stuff in there.
I'm confused by the implications here that you are...
1. Equating modern day Pearl Jam with Nina Simone or Sam Cooke (actual middle names of both mentioned artists: Fucking).
2. Equating multiple artists interpreting a benchmark song with Ed just calling a do-over on a tune he's already recorded.
3. Missing the part where I said I'm not voting because, where one is a terribly inconsistent cover, the other is "mostly fun for how it blends lyrical honesty about betrayal and the aftermath of infidelity with the following emotional core (insert picture)." Perhaps you misread that sentence as meaning "I would never vote for a song that has already been done before," rather than exactly not that implication at all.
My response had nothing to do with PJ/Ed. It was pretty much what comes to my mind when people dismiss recorded covers on principle. I think the extensive covering by extremely talented people, that was the norm at a certain point, produced very interesting takes on certain songs and often amazing music period. Anyway covers of that era deserve a thread on their own for how much the topic allows to talk about it.
And Nina and Sam are a)my main arguments about why most people don't understand what a singer who can wear that second name proudly is b)the 2 musicians i wish i had more time to explore the way they deserve.
Re: Match BC: Sonic Reducer vs. Sleeping By Myself
Posted: Mon March 10, 2014 4:31 pm
by epilogue
Again, Sonic Reducer is probably a better song. But I don't like voting for covers over originals.
Re: Match BC: Sonic Reducer vs. Sleeping By Myself
Posted: Mon March 10, 2014 5:32 pm
by BurtReynolds
I dont care if they are covers or not. I'm voting for whatever sounds better.
Re: Match BC: Sonic Reducer vs. Sleeping By Myself
Posted: Mon March 10, 2014 5:37 pm
by malice
BurtReynolds wrote:I dont care if they are covers or not. I'm voting for whatever sounds better.
that's stupid, who cares what sounds better?
Re: Match BC: Sonic Reducer vs. Sleeping By Myself
Posted: Mon March 10, 2014 6:28 pm
by B
durdencommatyler wrote:Again, Sonic Reducer is probably a better song. But I don't like voting for covers over originals.
Hey Sleeping By Myself is a Pearl Jam cover of an Eddie Vedder song, so get over yourself!
I have to go Sonic Reducer b/c my kids are actually demanding that song lately.
Re: Match BC: Sonic Reducer vs. Sleeping By Myself
Posted: Mon March 10, 2014 6:35 pm
by epilogue
B wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:Again, Sonic Reducer is probably a better song. But I don't like voting for covers over originals.
Hey Sleeping By Myself is a Pearl Jam cover of an Eddie Vedder song, so get over yourself!
I have to go Sonic Reducer b/c my kids are actually demanding that song lately.
Okay, B.
Re: Match BC: Sonic Reducer vs. Sleeping By Myself
Posted: Mon March 10, 2014 6:36 pm
by epilogue
BurtReynolds wrote:I dont care if they are covers or not. I'm voting for whatever sounds better.
It's amazing how different people have different ideas and preferences. Crazy.
Re: Match BC: Sonic Reducer vs. Sleeping By Myself
Posted: Mon March 10, 2014 6:41 pm
by BurtReynolds
durdencommatyler wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:I dont care if they are covers or not. I'm voting for whatever sounds better.
It's amazing how different people have different ideas and preferences. Crazy.
I wasnt implying otherwise, you %$#@% $#@%#%% @@$$#%$ @#% $#@%$ ##$@$er!
Re: Match BC: Sonic Reducer vs. Sleeping By Myself
Posted: Mon March 10, 2014 7:36 pm
by epilogue
BurtReynolds wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:I dont care if they are covers or not. I'm voting for whatever sounds better.
It's amazing how different people have different ideas and preferences. Crazy.
I wasnt implying otherwise, you %$#@% $#@%#%% @@$$#%$ @#% $#@%$ ##$@$er!
I was using your post to respond to a lot of people.
Re: Match BC: Sonic Reducer vs. Sleeping By Myself
Posted: Mon March 10, 2014 7:44 pm
by Jorge
Joey get a hold of yourself, you're out of control
Re: Match BC: Sonic Reducer vs. Sleeping By Myself
Posted: Mon March 10, 2014 7:56 pm
by epilogue
Re: Match BC: Sonic Reducer vs. Sleeping By Myself
Posted: Mon March 10, 2014 7:56 pm
by stip
durdencommatyler wrote:Again, Sonic Reducer is probably a better song. But I don't like voting for covers over originals.
sleeping by myself is the better song, period. You did the right thing.
Re: Match BC: Sonic Reducer vs. Sleeping By Myself
Posted: Mon March 10, 2014 8:02 pm
by warehouse
tough choice, but 'sonic reducer' is a classic and has always been one of my favorite covers.
Re: Match BC: Sonic Reducer vs. Sleeping By Myself
Posted: Mon March 10, 2014 8:05 pm
by stip
i first heard it on the atlanta broadcast in 1994 and for a long time thought it was a new pearl jam song, along with betterman, already in love, and bear with me
Re: Match BC: Sonic Reducer vs. Sleeping By Myself
Posted: Mon March 10, 2014 8:09 pm
by McParadigm
stip wrote:i first heard it on the atlanta broadcast in 1994 and for a long time thought it was a new pearl jam song, along with betterman, already in love, and bear with me
"Oh good, Ed finally found a home for that "don't need no mom and dad" gem he teased us with on MTV."
Re: Match BC: Sonic Reducer vs. Sleeping By Myself
Posted: Mon March 10, 2014 8:31 pm
by epilogue
stip wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:Again, Sonic Reducer is probably a better song. But I don't like voting for covers over originals.
sleeping by myself is the better song, period. You did the right thing.
I'm a pretty big fan of the original, stipster.
Re: Match BC: Sonic Reducer vs. Sleeping By Myself
Posted: Mon March 10, 2014 8:41 pm
by stip
they're all good, friend. they're all good.
Re: Match BC: Sonic Reducer vs. Sleeping By Myself
Posted: Mon March 10, 2014 9:24 pm
by Lament
Sleeping by Myself is the song on Lightning Bolt that makes me imagine the good albums Pearl Jam could make in the future if they cared about making good albums.
Re: Match BC: Sonic Reducer vs. Sleeping By Myself
Posted: Mon March 10, 2014 9:34 pm
by epilogue
I really enjoy Sleeping By Myself. And I'll even pat myself on the back and brag about being one of the only people who didn't think it was a mistake and/or disaster to put it on LB back when the tracklist was announced.
But Sonic Reducer -- even PJ's cover, but especially the original -- is just one of those songs. It gets me. And we always have a great night out together. If I thought covers had any place in a tourney like this, or if, the Dead Boys' version was up against Pearl Jam's Sleeping By Myself, I'd absolutely vote for Sonic Reducer.
None of that means I don't adore Sleeping By Myself, though. And it gets my vote this round.
Re: Match BC: Sonic Reducer vs. Sleeping By Myself
Posted: Mon March 10, 2014 10:09 pm
by Kaius
Lament wrote:Sleeping by Myself is the song on Lightning Bolt that makes me imagine the good albums Pearl Jam could make in the future if they cared about making good albums.
