Red Mosquito

BurtReynolds wrote:God's Dice has this amazing ability to make me forget it exists.

It came on shuffle yesterday and I am always amazed at how a song that seems to be working so hard can leave so little of an impression

Kaius wrote:How did Even Flow not get a bye?

Only two songs from each studio album got byes, based on the votes in the song ranking thread

It doesn't get much better than Evenflow's bass line.

it doesn't get much better than evenflow, period.

It's certainly not God's Dice.

I am so desensitized to anything that may be a virtue in "Even Flow" that it's as much of a non-event for me as "God's Dice" is for Stip and Burt.

digster wrote:I'm in a bind; Even Flow is probably a better song, but I honestly have no desire to ever hear it again.

cutuphalfdead wrote:Gods' Dice is the better song.

I'm torn between these two feelings. I'm not sure if Even Flow is a good song that I'm just incredibly bored with, or a dumb song that I rank inappropriately because I was a 15 year old nincompoop when I first heard it.

Either way, I like Gods' Dice. I like that it tempers its punk crunch with such stumbling, almost disoriented perspective. I like the guitar work in the "resignate..." section. I like that it (and pretty much every fast track on Binaural that isn't titled Breakerfall) has a kind of different personality than Pearl Jam fast songs typically have.

I can see the case for Evenflow being "dumb". Hurr during to and fro-like.
I don't care how many times I've heard it; the music is phenomenal.

Thejambi wrote:the music is phenomenal.

I dunno. I always like when they create a noncommital, almost amelodic swirl for the verses of a song. It leaves a great open space that fits Ed's vocal dramatics well. But there's something about Even Flow's music that just seems almost inorganic and....wanky isn't the word, but just....I get nothing out of it. The move into the chorus sounds kind of good, but beyond that, it seems to capture a lot of what it was about Ten that I was glad they shook off.

McParadigm wrote:

Thejambi wrote:the music is phenomenal.

I dunno. I always like when they create a noncommital, almost amelodic swirl for the verses of a song. It leaves a great open space that fits Ed's vocal dramatics well. But there's something about Even Flow's music that just seems almost inorganic and....wanky isn't the word, but just....I get nothing out of it. The move into the chorus sounds kind of good, but beyond that, it seems to capture a lot of what it was about Ten that I was glad they shook off.

I think (and everybody is free to give me all the shit they want if I'm wrong) this is always a big risk when writing songs starting with "let's write a song like...." or "here's a riff let's see what we can do with it".

i just can't listen to evenflow anymore.

I've come around big time on Gods' Dice. But Even Flow is Even Flow; to me, it's one of the best rock songs of its decade. No contest.

The solo with the two parts bookending it, is one of the top ten moments of their catalog.

I get the "inorganic" comment. It is a formulaic song and I can see how it may be boring in that aspect. I don't agree at all but I get it.

I love both songs, but if I was hearing them both for the first time again, Even Flow would blow it out of the water.

I was leaning towards Gods Dice cause i was so sick of Even Flow and have never been super fond of the studio version. Then i remembered how awesome it is on LO2L. So there I find myself voting or even flow because its fucking even flow.

Very tough one for me. Went with Even Flow.

The guitar sounds in Gods' Dice are sublime.

Thejambi wrote:The solo with the two parts bookending it, is one of the top ten moments of their catalog.

I get the "inorganic" comment. It is a formulaic song and I can see how it may be boring in that aspect. I don't agree at all but I get it.

I think there's an interesting debate potential in this. I understand why some people are drawn to music that is formulaic and/or feels inorganic to me, it's perfectly legitimate.

Seems like one of their more organic songs to my ears. I like the way it flows. That monster intro into the first verse sounds perfect to me. Most of their songs don't have that quality. I dunno.

I don't really hear formulaic or inorganic in that song, although I'd imagine what those words mean to music changes from person to person. I think I'm personally just burned the fuck out on that song. I'm way more likely to reach for Gods Dice today, but unlike other instances I'm not sure that's the fault of Even Flow.