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Re: Radiohead... Bonnaroo 2006 mastered SBD... you need this

Posted: Thu January 10, 2013 8:03 pm
by Gods' Die
Is this thing still out there...if so it sounds like a pretty great boot to grab.

Re: Radiohead... Bonnaroo 2006 mastered SBD... you need this

Posted: Thu January 10, 2013 8:27 pm
by Birds in Hell
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:Finally got to listen to this. Generally, it's awesome, but it's a pretty shitty upload in FLAC. There's no continuity, there are cuts at all the track changes. It's as though each song was remastered seperately and then crudely stuck back together. I wouldn't call it "professional" by any stretch of the imagination. It's too bad when these kinds of recordings wind up in the hands of hacks who fancy themselves engineers.
Oh? That fucking sucks. I've only dropped in and heard individual tracks so far, I hadn't had the chance to listen to the whole thing.

Re: Radiohead... Bonnaroo 2006 mastered SBD... you need this

Posted: Thu January 10, 2013 8:57 pm
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
Birds in Hell wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:Finally got to listen to this. Generally, it's awesome, but it's a pretty shitty upload in FLAC. There's no continuity, there are cuts at all the track changes. It's as though each song was remastered seperately and then crudely stuck back together. I wouldn't call it "professional" by any stretch of the imagination. It's too bad when these kinds of recordings wind up in the hands of hacks who fancy themselves engineers.
Oh? That fucking sucks. I've only dropped in and heard individual tracks so far, I hadn't had the chance to listen to the whole thing.
If you look at the waveform, everything is brickwalled but the levels have been lowered differently from track to track. It looks ridiculous. There are cuts and weird level jumps all over the place...sometimes at a track change, sometimes not. Look no further than the beginning of the show...the intro going into There There. Most of these glitches happen between songs, but there is an unfortunate one at the beginning of the "rain down" section in Paranoid Android. The second encore break fades in, fades out and then fades back in again for no apparent reason. I can live with the remastering work, but in terms of editing/continuity, it's a mess. It seems to me that the worst uploads always contain the sentence "I've been an audio engineer for 20 years..." somewhere in the description.

Re: Radiohead... Bonnaroo 2006 mastered SBD... you need this

Posted: Thu January 10, 2013 9:00 pm
by Birds in Hell
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:Finally got to listen to this. Generally, it's awesome, but it's a pretty shitty upload in FLAC. There's no continuity, there are cuts at all the track changes. It's as though each song was remastered seperately and then crudely stuck back together. I wouldn't call it "professional" by any stretch of the imagination. It's too bad when these kinds of recordings wind up in the hands of hacks who fancy themselves engineers.
Oh? That fucking sucks. I've only dropped in and heard individual tracks so far, I hadn't had the chance to listen to the whole thing.
If you look at the waveform, everything is brickwalled but the levels have been lowered differently from track to track. It looks ridiculous. There are cuts and weird level jumps all over the place...sometimes at a track change, sometimes not. Look no further than the beginning of the show...the intro going into There There. Most of these glitches happen between songs, but there is an unfortunate one at the beginning of the "rain down" section in Paranoid Android. The second encore break fades in, fades out and then fades back in again for no apparent reason. I can live with the remastering work, but in terms of editing/continuity, it's a mess. It seems to me that the worst uploads always contain the sentence "I've been an audio engineer for 20 years..." somewhere in the description.
Geez. Too bad dude didn't just upload the original board recording.

Re: Radiohead... Bonnaroo 2006 mastered SBD... you need this

Posted: Thu January 10, 2013 9:06 pm
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
Nobody wants to seem ungrateful, so I doubt anything will be done about it, if it's even talked about at all.

Re: Radiohead... Bonnaroo 2006 mastered SBD... you need this

Posted: Thu January 10, 2013 11:19 pm
by AndySlash
yeah some of this stuff bothered me, too, when i listened. but given this didn't exist before, it wasn't worth harping about it- it's still better than anything else we have.
Birds in Hell wrote:Geez. Too bad dude didn't just upload the original board recording.
i kind of suspect he released it this way on purpose, as a personal stamp to make sure it couldn't possibly be attributed to someone else. it got the music out there, but in a way where it's obvious where it came from. it also keeps interest out there for a better, more formal release.

of course i could be way off base and this truly is this 20 year audio engineer's greatest work.

Re: Radiohead... Bonnaroo 2006 mastered SBD... you need this

Posted: Fri January 11, 2013 5:43 pm
by Oh, Jimmy
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:If you look at the waveform, everything is brickwalled but the levels have been lowered differently from track to track. It looks ridiculous. There are cuts and weird level jumps all over the place...sometimes at a track change, sometimes not. Look no further than the beginning of the show...the intro going into There There. Most of these glitches happen between songs, but there is an unfortunate one at the beginning of the "rain down" section in Paranoid Android. The second encore break fades in, fades out and then fades back in again for no apparent reason. I can live with the remastering work, but in terms of editing/continuity, it's a mess. It seems to me that the worst uploads always contain the sentence "I've been an audio engineer for 20 years..." somewhere in the description.

I haven't listened that close to it, but despite the inconsistencies you point out it's still a really good sounding bootleg of the greatest show Radiohead will ever play.

I really think you're over analyzing it by a pretty wide margin. Who cares that the waveform looks ridiculous? Does the guy have a future in the profession? Probably not, but there are plenty of officially released shows from Pearl Jam, Black Crowes and My Morning Jacket that I wish sounded as good as this.

Re: Radiohead... Bonnaroo 2006 mastered SBD... you need this

Posted: Fri January 11, 2013 8:14 pm
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
I uploaded a "fixed" version to ZOMB, if anyone is interested. No need to complain any longer.

Re: Radiohead... Bonnaroo 2006 mastered SBD... you need this

Posted: Fri January 11, 2013 8:20 pm
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
Oh, Jimmy wrote:I haven't listened that close to it, but despite the inconsistencies you point out it's still a really good sounding bootleg of the greatest show Radiohead will ever play.

I really think you're over analyzing it by a pretty wide margin. Who cares that the waveform looks ridiculous? Does the guy have a future in the profession? Probably not, but there are plenty of officially released shows from Pearl Jam, Black Crowes and My Morning Jacket that I wish sounded as good as this.
Fine. But when I listen to a concert, I like it to flow naturally like a concert recording should. I hate glitches, bad edits, and even fade-outs between songs. It pisses me off. There's no reason they should be there if the original source is a complete unmastered WAV file.

I think this show was designed to be an MP3 upload, and the FLAC version came out only after someone begged the guy for WAV files. Hence the total disregard for smooth transitions from song to song.

Re: Radiohead... Bonnaroo 2006 mastered SBD... you need this

Posted: Sat January 12, 2013 12:06 am
by ridleybradout
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:I uploaded a "fixed" version to ZOMB, if anyone is interested. No need to complain any longer.
Thanks! I was going to 'fix' this myself but now I don't have to - muchly appreciatory :thumbsup:

It was so good of this guy to share this show but there really is no excuse for the inconsistent transition between tracks - it baffles me how a sound engineer could listen back to that and not be infuriated by it.

Re: Radiohead... Bonnaroo 2006 mastered SBD... you need this

Posted: Sat January 12, 2013 12:24 am
by Birds in Hell
Cheers!

Downloading now.

Re: Radiohead... Bonnaroo 2006 mastered SBD... you need this

Posted: Sat January 12, 2013 12:35 am
by more deep
Has it been officially confirmed that this is the best show they have ever done?

I enjoyed the shit out of it but i have to think they've played better

Re: Radiohead... Bonnaroo 2006 mastered SBD... you need this

Posted: Thu February 14, 2013 11:48 pm
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
There's a "fixed" version on Zomb now without the editing/mixing errors.

Re: Radiohead... Bonnaroo 2006 mastered SBD... you need this

Posted: Fri February 15, 2013 3:05 pm
by vegman
The Zomb DL kicks ass, thx.

Re: Radiohead... Bonnaroo 2006 mastered SBD... you need this

Posted: Sat February 16, 2013 2:27 am
by matt reeder
more deep wrote:Has it been officially confirmed that this is the best show they have ever done?

I enjoyed the shit out of it but i have to think they've played better
It's close. It's one of my top bootlegs, along with this one:

RADIOHEAD
November 27, 2003
Earl's Court
London, UK

Source: XFM Broadcast: NTL Digital > AUX L/R > Audigy > Wavelab > WAV > SHN

Setlist:
Intro (Where Bluebirds Fly)
There There
2+2=5
Sit Down Stand Up
Where I End And You Begin
Lucky
Backdrifts
I Might Be Wrong
Myxomatosis
Creep
Paranoid Android
Go To Sleep
Sail To The Moon
No Surprises
The Gloaming
Just
Exit Music (For A Film)
Idioteque

Encore 1:
Like Spinning Plates
The National Anthem
A Punch-Up At A Wedding
How To Disappear Completely

Encore 2:
We Suck Young Blood
The Bends
Follow Me Around
Everything In It's Right Place

Re: Radiohead... Bonnaroo 2006 mastered SBD... you need this

Posted: Tue February 19, 2013 10:19 am
by ridleybradout
Spot on Matt - I was lucky enough to be at Earls Court I (2003-11-26) which is often overshadowed by night 2 (but just as good IMO :nice:)

I've put together some artwork for JWB's fixed version which can be downloaded here.

Image

Re: Radiohead... Bonnaroo 2006 mastered SBD... you need this

Posted: Tue February 19, 2013 12:03 pm
by NancyBabich
Myxomatosis live is so like great.

Re: Radiohead... Bonnaroo 2006 mastered SBD... you need this

Posted: Tue February 19, 2013 5:02 pm
by AndySlash
ridleybradout wrote:Spot on Matt - I was lucky enough to be at Earls Court I (2003-11-26) which is often overshadowed by night 2 (but just as good IMO :nice:)

I've put together some artwork for JWB's fixed version which can be downloaded here.

Image

awesome, thanks

Re: Radiohead... Bonnaroo 2006 mastered SBD... you need this

Posted: Wed December 11, 2013 5:03 pm
by Hypnos
Is there any place where I can download the fixed version besides ZOMB? Thanks.

Re: Radiohead... Bonnaroo 2006 mastered SBD... you need this

Posted: Wed December 11, 2013 7:48 pm
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
Hypnosomnia wrote:Is there any place where I can download the fixed version besides ZOMB? Thanks.
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