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Re: Match FI: Sometimes vs. Who You Are
Posted: Wed March 26, 2014 6:36 am
by BurtReynolds
I like that song but that line is rough.
Re: Match FI: Sometimes vs. Who You Are
Posted: Wed March 26, 2014 6:39 am
by Leatherhead
Birds in Hell wrote:Trampled moss on your souls
Changes all, you're a part
Seen it all, not at all
Can't defend fucked up man
Circumstance, clapping hands
Driving winds, happenstance
Off the track, in the mud
That's the moss in the aforementioned verse
A basic definition of "aforementioned" is that it refers to a thing or person previously mentioned; it's a subsequent mention of something that's already been referred to at least once in the text being considered.
There's no other possible reading of the lyric above other than the previously mentioned thing being referred to is the preceding verse itself. Ed's error is that he treats the word as being synonymous with "previous" - the verse cannot be aforementioned as it hasn't even been mentioned once as of yet.
Ohhhh, yea, okay. The verse hasn't even been mentioned, so it can't be the aforementioned verse. He would have to have already referred to the verse in order for it to be the aforementioned verse.
Thanks.
Re: Match FI: Sometimes vs. Who You Are
Posted: Wed March 26, 2014 6:52 am
by Jorge
Birds in Hell wrote:The glaring misuse of "aforementioned" in Who You Are almost entirely cancels out its many strengths, it really bums me out.
But lyrics don't matterrrrrrrr they're just souuunndssss
Re: Match FI: Sometimes vs. Who You Are
Posted: Wed March 26, 2014 6:55 am
by Birds in Hell
theplatypus wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:The glaring misuse of "aforementioned" in Who You Are almost entirely cancels out its many strengths, it really bums me out.
But lyrics don't matterrrrrrrr they're just souuunndssss
Unless they're really, really bad.
Re: Match FI: Sometimes vs. Who You Are
Posted: Wed March 26, 2014 6:56 am
by BurtReynolds
What is the moss in the aforementioned verse, anyway? The mud? That don't make no sense!
Re: Match FI: Sometimes vs. Who You Are
Posted: Wed March 26, 2014 6:58 am
by Birds in Hell
BurtReynolds wrote:What is the moss in the aforementioned verse, anyway? The mud? That don't make no sense!
It's (presumably) the trampled moss on our souls, Burt.
Re: Match FI: Sometimes vs. Who You Are
Posted: Wed March 26, 2014 7:01 am
by BurtReynolds
Birds in Hell wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:What is the moss in the aforementioned verse, anyway? The mud? That don't make no sense!
It's (presumably) the trampled moss on our souls, Burt.
But what is the trampled moss on our souls? What is "that"?
Re: Match FI: Sometimes vs. Who You Are
Posted: Wed March 26, 2014 7:02 am
by Washed Away
BurtReynolds wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:What is the moss in the aforementioned verse, anyway? The mud? That don't make no sense!
It's (presumably) the trampled moss on our souls, Burt.
But what is the trampled moss on our souls? What is "that"?
Can't defend fucked up man
Re: Match FI: Sometimes vs. Who You Are
Posted: Wed March 26, 2014 7:02 am
by Iholdthepain
Ok, I'm trying to get this... The verse was never aforementioned... the moss was... so it would make sense if the line was "That's the mud... the aforementioned moss." amirite? Either way, it IS awkward sounding...
Sometimes just doesn't seem finished to me, but the lyrics are definitively better.
Re: Match FI: Sometimes vs. Who You Are
Posted: Wed March 26, 2014 7:03 am
by BurtReynolds
Washed Away wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:What is the moss in the aforementioned verse, anyway? The mud? That don't make no sense!
It's (presumably) the trampled moss on our souls, Burt.
But what is the trampled moss on our souls? What is "that"?
Can't defend fucked up man
That's fucked up, man.
Re: Match FI: Sometimes vs. Who You Are
Posted: Wed March 26, 2014 7:03 am
by Jorge
Iholdthepain wrote:Ok, I'm trying to get this... The verse was never aforementioned... the moss was... so it would make sense if the line was "That's the mud... the aforementioned moss." amirite? Either way, it IS awkward sounding...
Sometimes just doesn't seem finished to me, but the lyrics are definitively better.
Eddie is dumb
Re: Match FI: Sometimes vs. Who You Are
Posted: Wed March 26, 2014 7:04 am
by BurtReynolds
Now I'll never know who I am.
Re: Match FI: Sometimes vs. Who You Are
Posted: Wed March 26, 2014 7:05 am
by Washed Away
BurtReynolds wrote:Washed Away wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:What is the moss in the aforementioned verse, anyway? The mud? That don't make no sense!
It's (presumably) the trampled moss on our souls, Burt.
But what is the trampled moss on our souls? What is "that"?
Can't defend fucked up man
That's fucked up, man.
What is up man?
Re: Match FI: Sometimes vs. Who You Are
Posted: Wed March 26, 2014 7:06 am
by BurtReynolds
"Previous verse" would work slightly better, but it's still pretty bad.
Re: Match FI: Sometimes vs. Who You Are
Posted: Wed March 26, 2014 7:07 am
by Birds in Hell
Iholdthepain wrote:Ok, I'm trying to get this... The verse was never aforementioned... the moss was... so it would make sense if the line was "That's the mud... the aforementioned moss." amirite?
Yes.
Re: Match FI: Sometimes vs. Who You Are
Posted: Wed March 26, 2014 7:11 am
by Iholdthepain
You fuckers...
I'm changing
My vote because of Eddie's dumb lyrics.
I'll just put on Jack's solo album
Whenever I want to hear
The aforementioned drums.
Re: Match FI: Sometimes vs. Who You Are
Posted: Wed March 26, 2014 7:19 am
by Washed Away
Eddie's carelessness just might make the difference in this match.
Re: Match FI: Sometimes vs. Who You Are
Posted: Wed March 26, 2014 7:25 am
by Birds in Hell
Washed Away wrote:Eddie's carelessness just might make the difference in this match.
My work here is done.
Re: Match FI: Sometimes vs. Who You Are
Posted: Wed March 26, 2014 10:38 am
by Lament
Sometimes loses points for me cause when he sings "You're God and you've got big hands," I'm almost positive he's talking about/to himself, and I can't help but thinking that Given to Fly is a much better "I'm God" song.
Re: Match FI: Sometimes vs. Who You Are
Posted: Wed March 26, 2014 11:27 am
by William Bloke
I just changed my vote to Sometimes. Careless grammar pisses me the hell off. Well pointed-out Spenno.