Red Mosquito

McParadigm wrote:I dunno. She was almost a caricature. It's sad for her family; it means little to me.

She became a bit of a caricature, perhaps. But that doesn't negate all the brilliance that came before. We keep seeing the word "trailblazer" used in memorium. And I think that's the most appropriate word.

I don't know anything about her, honestly. I just think of E! and tabloids and Botox and plastic and it just snowballs from there.

Kaius wrote:I don't know anything about her, honestly. I just think of E! and tabloids and Botox and plastic and it just snowballs from there.

You should watch some of her early standup. Truly was groundbreaking and funny as shit

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Kaius wrote:I don't know anything about her, honestly. I just think of E! and tabloids and Botox and plastic and it just snowballs from there.

You should watch some of her early standup. Truly was groundbreaking and funny as shit

Yep.

There are so many comedians who owe their career to her. Also, it's no coincidence that Louis CK uses her to juxtapose Dane Cook in an episode of LOUIS.

Her talk show in the late 80s was really funny. I remember my mom looking at me weird for watching it all the time.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Kaius wrote:I don't know anything about her, honestly. I just think of E! and tabloids and Botox and plastic and it just snowballs from there.

You should watch some of her early standup. Truly was groundbreaking and funny as shit

Then I suppose, if she had died at that time, it probably would have been a loss.

McParadigm wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Kaius wrote:I don't know anything about her, honestly. I just think of E! and tabloids and Botox and plastic and it just snowballs from there.

You should watch some of her early standup. Truly was groundbreaking and funny as shit

Then I suppose, if she had died at that time, it probably would have been a loss.

not sure if serious

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Kaius wrote:I don't know anything about her, honestly. I just think of E! and tabloids and Botox and plastic and it just snowballs from there.

You should watch some of her early standup. Truly was groundbreaking and funny as shit

Then I suppose, if she had died at that time, it probably would have been a loss.

not sure if serious

I don't think the death of the 21st century Joan Rivers is a loss of any kind to the public sphere. I'm sure it's hard for her family, though.

Kinda team McParadigm on this one. Late in her life she seems to have developed into a really mean, hateful and vindictive person. But I saw some of her early standup footage and can see that it was funny and significant.

Always comes in 3's, yea? Robin WIlliams, JOan Rivers....

Who's next?

Strat wrote:Always comes in 3's, yea? Robin WIlliams, JOan Rivers....

Who's next?

Alex

Strat wrote:Always comes in 3's, yea? Robin WIlliams, JOan Rivers....

Who's next?

Gustavo Cerati.

Now there's a loss.

So I shouldn't make an RIP thread for anyone famous that dies of old age?

Strat wrote:Always comes in 3's, yea? Robin WIlliams, JOan Rivers....

Who's next?

Very excited that nobody else in the world died this last week

theplatypus wrote:Kinda team McParadigm on this one. Late in her life she seems to have developed into a really mean, hateful and vindictive person. But I saw some of her early standup footage and can see that it was funny and significant.

I admit to having lost track of her career somewhere in the mid-90s. She made some choices that were not indicative of her talent. But mean, hateful and vindictive? Where does that come from? I'm not saying it's inaccurate, I'm just curious. Like I said, I really haven't paid attention since she started looking like a oversized toy version of that robot she played in SpaceBalls.

Her episode of Louie was pretty fantastic, though.

If you've barely even paid any attention to her in the last twenty years, how big a loss can this be?

durdencommatyler wrote:

theplatypus wrote:Kinda team McParadigm on this one. Late in her life she seems to have developed into a really mean, hateful and vindictive person. But I saw some of her early standup footage and can see that it was funny and significant.

I admit to having lost track of her career somewhere in the mid-90s. She made some choices that were not indicative of her talent. But mean, hateful and vindictive? Where does that come from? I'm not saying it's inaccurate, I'm just curious. Like I said, I really haven't paid attention since she started looking like a oversized toy version of that robot she played in SpaceBalls.

Her episode of Louie was pretty fantastic, though.

I think this is part of it:

tommymctom wrote:

Strat wrote:Always comes in 3's, yea? Robin WIlliams, JOan Rivers....

Who's next?

Alex

It's not a big loss for me at all. I think it's a bummer, especially for her family, as you say. I saw the news and thought, "oh she died? That's a bummer."

She was one of the pioneers, one of the people that made comedy what it is today. She was raw and insightful and full of passion and vigor. It's not a national tragedy or anything. But her career had a profound impact on a lot of artists. I think it's more than appropriate to mourn that loss.

McParadigm wrote:If you've barely even paid any attention to her in the last twenty years, how big a loss can this be?

If you had watched a certain movie by now I wouldn't have to be talking about a dead has been comedian. That Transformers thread would be 200 pages by now.