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Re: "Kurt Cobain and I were the top two scribes in the ninet
Posted: Sat December 06, 2014 9:39 pm
by B
BigRedLedbetter wrote:All of this animosity with two of my faves.
I was a big Smashing Pumpkins fan until they started releasing these reissues. Now I've just gotten tired of hearing Billy Corgan talk.
Re: "Kurt Cobain and I were the top two scribes in the ninet
Posted: Sat December 06, 2014 9:53 pm
by contamination
McParadigm wrote:I love how 90's musicians still talk about that time like they were accomplishing something of import...really changing things, man.
Re: "Kurt Cobain and I were the top two scribes in the ninet
Posted: Sat December 06, 2014 9:56 pm
by McParadigm
Corgan never seemed like more than a middling lyricist with a habit to rely on standard pop chording and hide it in noise distortion. But his band had a sound that made it stand out on the radio. PJ Harvey, Nick Cave, and many others were vastly better songwriters.
But all this legacy retrofitting by almost every 90's band is hilarious, and he's just the most blatant and unapologetic of the bunch. Hardly the only guilty party.
Re: "Kurt Cobain and I were the top two scribes in the ninet
Posted: Sat December 06, 2014 9:58 pm
by malice
McParadigm wrote:I love how 90's musicians still talk about that time like they were accomplishing something of import...really changing things, man.
feel like I'm watching gen x turn into baby boomers
Re: "Kurt Cobain and I were the top two scribes in the ninet
Posted: Sat December 06, 2014 10:09 pm
by Mine
McParadigm wrote:Corgan never seemed like more than a middling lyricist with a habit to rely on standard pop chording and hide it in noise distortion. But his band had a sound that made it stand out on the radio. PJ Harvey, Nick Cave, and many others were vastly better songwriters.
But all this legacy retrofitting by almost every 90's band is hilarious, and he's just the most blatant and unapologetic of the bunch. Hardly the only guilty party.
I'm not sure that the bands are entirely responsible for this. I think it all started with the way the press started to present Cobain as a hugely influential entity that initiated this revolution in rock. These bands are just cashing in on the hype.
Re: "Kurt Cobain and I were the top two scribes in the ninet
Posted: Sat December 06, 2014 10:12 pm
by contamination
Maybe this is what happens when you surround yourself with people who tell you how special and unique you are. After a while you actually start to think it's true. That's kind of how I felt about Glenn Frey and Don Henley of The Eagles after seeing History Of The Eagles Part One. It's just rock music, you're no Mozart.
Re: "Kurt Cobain and I were the top two scribes in the ninet
Posted: Sat December 06, 2014 10:57 pm
by McParadigm
I read a thread like this and I think, "Kurt would've liked this. He would have liked this."
Re: "Kurt Cobain and I were the top two scribes in the ninet
Posted: Sat December 06, 2014 11:19 pm
by McParadigm
Really, though, the bands that came out of the Boomer era didn't have a lot of precedent to base their assumptions about the future on. And even into the 70s it was still assumed that rock stardom had an end date. The Rolling Stones were in their 30's when the 'rock dinosaurs' and Strolling Bones jokes first popped up, and a lot of the writing that was done about the first wave of punk in the second half of the decade included references to it as a response to "old" bands who didn't know when it was time to quit.
By the 90s, everybody knows that rock stars stay rock stars until the day they die, and an entire industry has popped up around adoring them. So all these 90s bands are dealing with the same thing that makes Bono such a pain in the ass: the notion that, because they made some rock music, they are important and always shall be.
Re: "Kurt Cobain and I were the top two scribes in the ninet
Posted: Sun December 07, 2014 12:12 am
by Jorge
Let's talk about the 90s
Re: "Kurt Cobain and I were the top two scribes in the ninet
Posted: Sun December 07, 2014 12:17 am
by McParadigm
Where does Jonathan Davis rank among the scribes of his generation?
I assume 4th.
Re: "Kurt Cobain and I were the top two scribes in the ninet
Posted: Sun December 07, 2014 12:22 am
by Jorge
Jonathan Davis actually wrote:GO! Some things on the migga-boo! GO! Some things they poi!
Re: "Kurt Cobain and I were the top two scribes in the ninet
Posted: Sun December 07, 2014 12:24 am
by McParadigm
Distant third it is.
Re: "Kurt Cobain and I were the top two scribes in the ninet
Posted: Sun December 07, 2014 1:51 am
by Jorge
I'm listening to Siamese Dream right now. I don't know about this "top scribes" boast but this album is better than Vs and In Utero.
Re: "Kurt Cobain and I were the top two scribes in the ninet
Posted: Sun December 07, 2014 2:12 am
by McParadigm
I'm skeptical.
Re: "Kurt Cobain and I were the top two scribes in the ninet
Posted: Sun December 07, 2014 2:27 am
by McParadigm
You're shocked.
Re: "Kurt Cobain and I were the top two scribes in the ninet
Posted: Sun December 07, 2014 2:31 am
by Birds in Hell
theplatypus wrote:I'm listening to Siamese Dream right now. I don't know about this "top scribes" boast but this album is better than Vs and In Utero.
It's pretty good but I can't go along with that.
Re: "Kurt Cobain and I were the top two scribes in the ninet
Posted: Sun December 07, 2014 5:43 am
by verb_to_trust
theplatypus wrote:I'm listening to Siamese Dream right now. I don't know about this "top scribes" boast but this album is better than Vs and In Utero.
You're an idiot if you think its better than In Utero
Re: "Kurt Cobain and I were the top two scribes in the ninet
Posted: Sun December 07, 2014 5:57 am
by LoathedVermin72
Guys
Re: "Kurt Cobain and I were the top two scribes in the ninet
Posted: Sun December 07, 2014 7:28 am
by Jorge
verb_to_trust wrote:theplatypus wrote:I'm listening to Siamese Dream right now. I don't know about this "top scribes" boast but this album is better than Vs and In Utero.
You're an idiot if you think its better than In Utero
I think it's better than In Utero and I think we can both agree I'm smarter than you
Re: "Kurt Cobain and I were the top two scribes in the ninet
Posted: Sun December 07, 2014 8:17 am
by verb_to_trust
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