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Re: new ticket distribution process/test

Posted: Mon January 07, 2013 9:09 pm
by Angus
If anyone ever bitches about the Ten Club again, Tim B will personally make sure your name isn't even in the bowl to draw. That's what this is all about.

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Re: new ticket distribution process/test

Posted: Mon January 07, 2013 9:27 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
Angus wrote:If anyone ever bitches about the Ten Club again, Tim B will personally make sure your name isn't even in the bowl to draw. That's what this is all about.

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:lol: this is probably completely accurate

Re: new ticket distribution process/test

Posted: Mon January 07, 2013 10:07 pm
by broken iris
Stip wrote:if I understand this right (I haven't done the test or watched the video) basically this increases your likelihood of getting into your top choice, and if you can't get that your likelihood of your second choice, etc. If that's the case that seems like a pretty good idea to me.
I don't think that's always true, but we need a statistician to explain it. The biggest question I have is that if I you get the best odds of winning your for first choice, and you don't, does that mean you odds get better for your subsequent drawings? Like if you get 10 'chances' in 20,000 entries for show one and 8 'chances' out of 20,000 for show two, if you don't get show one, do you then get like 18 'chances' for show two? Or if you don't get your top choice do you start to become less likely to see any show?

Re: new ticket distribution process/test

Posted: Mon January 07, 2013 10:09 pm
by bodysnatcher
patrick wrote:
I'm curious to see how this will work for say, folks who can't travel and there's only THAT one show they can attend.
use Ticketmaster. you probably have better odds at getting better seats with them anyway.

Re: new ticket distribution process/test

Posted: Mon January 07, 2013 10:28 pm
by Will
On the Interplanetary Tour, my first choice is to see them in Uranus.

Re: new ticket distribution process/test

Posted: Mon January 07, 2013 11:48 pm
by numbers
one of the main reasons I didnt renew my membership is when I realized it's 10x easier to get tickets if you arent trying to get them through ten club, and when the people sitting in the row in front of me at the show arent there with 10C tickets.

Re: new ticket distribution process/test

Posted: Tue January 08, 2013 12:12 am
by washing machine
Yup. I sat about 13 rows back at the solo EV show a few months ago and I quit 10c in 2005.

Re: new ticket distribution process/test

Posted: Tue January 08, 2013 12:21 am
by numbers
Yeah, I had great seats to a Vedder show that I got with no hassle during the public onsale, as opposed to sitting here for a half hour, smoking 46 cigarettes and having 8 strokes while trying to get 10C tickets.

Re: new ticket distribution process/test

Posted: Tue January 08, 2013 1:00 am
by given2trade
They still have a monopoly on PJ tickets when it comes to front half floor and front half lower bowl. Of course, PJ doesn't really tour anymore so they are just milking those $20 and $40 memberships!

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Re: new ticket distribution process/test

Posted: Tue January 08, 2013 1:21 am
by knee tunes
Angus wrote:Does this mean they will play Berlin this year?

yes

Re: new ticket distribution process/test

Posted: Tue January 08, 2013 1:28 am
by broken iris
Is seniority intact?

Re: new ticket distribution process/test

Posted: Tue January 08, 2013 3:04 am
by wtfisaledbetter?
How does this work for people who want to go to multiple shows? Or is it back to 1 show per tour?

Re: new ticket distribution process/test

Posted: Tue January 08, 2013 4:24 am
by mkay0
broken iris wrote:Is seniority intact?
They would never get rid of seniority, that's how they make that $ on memberships. This process only increases the value of seniority.

Re: new ticket distribution process/test

Posted: Tue January 08, 2013 5:02 am
by given2trade
mkay0 wrote:
broken iris wrote:Is seniority intact?
They would never get rid of seniority, that's how they make that $ on memberships. This process only increases the value of seniority.
this guy gets it

Re: new ticket distribution process/test

Posted: Tue January 08, 2013 7:27 am
by csblackb
I signed up for my 5th through 8th choices before signing up for my 1st through 4th. I wanted to make sure that my future chance at scoring 10C tix are even worse than they already are.

/probably shouldn't be able to do that

mkay0 wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:why cant they just invest in a fucking server that doesnt crash when they try to sell tickets on the website, i know they are trying to run all this stuff themselves and might have somewhat limited resources, but they just need to have a server that can handle the traffic of around 1500 people at once, and once you get tickets in your basket then switch you to another site so you dont have to deal with the slowness with everyone trying to grab tickets while you check out :evil:
Because its a waste of money for them, why improve the server when they use it 3 times every 5 years?
While that's true, there's actually a really easy fix to their problem: a queue system. Exactly what TM does, and exactly why TM doesn't go down (usually). The 10C model to date has been to essentially have 10C members DDOS their system by clicking Refresh until their fingers bleed.

/dammit, meant to click Refresh 3000 times during the test to see if I could score tickets

Re: new ticket distribution process/test

Posted: Tue January 08, 2013 7:41 am
by Birds in Hell
I wonder how the sabotage investigation is progressing.

Re: new ticket distribution process/test

Posted: Tue January 08, 2013 4:00 pm
by given2trade
Birds in Hell wrote:I wonder how the sabotage investigation is progressing.
Lost my signature :(

Re: new ticket distribution process/test

Posted: Tue January 08, 2013 7:12 pm
by B
Stip wrote:if I understand this right (I haven't done the test or watched the video) basically this increases your likelihood of getting into your top choice, and if you can't get that your likelihood of your second choice, etc. If that's the case that seems like a pretty good idea to me.
10C wrote:Q: How does the my show priority selection factor in to the drawing?

A: For each show we will randomly drawn members who have made that show their #1 priority. If any tickets remain the system will randomly draw names of members who have chosen that show as their #2 priority, and so on until every ticket for a given show has been sold.
I like this plan quite a bit. Here's hoping it works.

Re: new ticket distribution process/test

Posted: Tue January 08, 2013 7:31 pm
by Bee Girl
It doesn't say anything about when you make a show your #1 choice and there are more #1 entries than there are available tickets, you don't get drawn, you have an even lesser chance of the second choice, lesser for third and so on... so if you don't get drawn for your first choice, you might just be fucked.

Is that right?

Re: new ticket distribution process/test

Posted: Tue January 08, 2013 7:40 pm
by Simple Torture
Bee Girl wrote:It doesn't say anything about when you make a show your #1 choice and there are more #1 entries than there are available tickets, you don't get drawn, you have an even lesser chance of the second choice, lesser for third and so on... so if you don't get drawn for your first choice, you might just be fucked.

Is that right?
That sounds right to me.

I think this kind of system would make sense for an extensive world tour, as long as most people get shows in their neck of the woods and choose their hometown as the #1 choice. But for the types of tours the band has played since 2007 (smaller runs, usually either US or Europe but not both), it certainly seems to decrease everyone's chances.