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Re: Pearl Jam underrated/overrated/properly rated

Posted: Tue October 15, 2013 7:04 pm
by Lament
Noonie wrote:What a Stipster.
:hooray:

Re: Pearl Jam underrated/overrated/properly rated

Posted: Tue October 15, 2013 7:44 pm
by Chris_H_2
His description of Vs being Pepsi and Ten being Coke was pretty good.

Re: Pearl Jam underrated/overrated/properly rated

Posted: Tue October 15, 2013 8:43 pm
by Juvenal
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Re: Pearl Jam underrated/overrated/properly rated

Posted: Tue October 15, 2013 8:48 pm
by Jorge
Juvenal wrote:Image
I'll reference this post next time you give someone shit for joking about Roskilde ;)

Re: Pearl Jam underrated/overrated/properly rated

Posted: Tue October 15, 2013 9:05 pm
by Juvenal
theplatypus wrote:
Juvenal wrote:Image
I'll reference this post next time you give someone shit for joking about Roskilde ;)
Or the Titanic :(

Re: Pearl Jam underrated/overrated/properly rated

Posted: Tue October 15, 2013 11:35 pm
by davis

Re: Pearl Jam underrated/overrated/properly rated

Posted: Tue October 15, 2013 11:37 pm
by Jorge
davis wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOyw6Q8qWpM
Ah yes. My people.

Re: Pearl Jam underrated/overrated/properly rated

Posted: Wed October 16, 2013 1:05 am
by stip
another similar article.

http://www.uproxx.com/music/2013/10/ran ... t-to-best/

10. Binaural (2000)

Binaural was doomed from the start. Pearl Jam “let go” of producer Brendan O’Brien, who had been with the group since Vs., Eddie Vedder was suffering from writer’s block around this time, and Mike McCready went into rehab for an addiction to prescription drugs. Plus, the dreaded “experimental sound” label. Pearl Jam was tired of being associated with a certain scene, so they essentially rejected all things “grunge,” whatever that means, making Binaural more of a reaction than a labor of love. It shows.

The songs are occasionally swampy and often boring, when they should have been unexpected and exciting — Pearl Jam was one of the few rock bands from the early 1990s to still be popular enough to debut at number two on the Billboard Hot-200, as Binaural did. But fortunately the album’s uneasiness turned out to be more of a bump than a complete stop, as Pearl Jam would soon recover.

9. No Code (1996)

No Code is to Pearl Jam as Zooropa is to U2. People who like it LOVE IT, everyone else shrugs it off as being too varied for its own good, a band caught staring at the crossroads, unsure of where to go next. It’s less an album than a collection of moody, unconnected songs, spiritually nonsensical songs at that. For a much better, harder rocking representation of Pearl Jam in the mid-1990s, check out their essential collaboration with Neil Young, Mirror Ba

8. Lightning Bolt (2013)

When a band’s been making music for over 20 years, as Pearl Jam has, it’s fair to ask whether they still should be. Are they adding anything by staying together, or are they going through motions? Are they throwing fans a bone by spending time in the studio, or are they spending time in the studio to make touring not seem like JUST a money grab? As it relates to Lightning Bolt, the answer is: yes. Yes, Lighting Bolt won’t help or hurt Pearl Jam’s legacy. Yes, Lightning Bolt doesn’t need to exist. Yes, Lightning Bolt is sturdy, if occasionally very good. Yes, Lightning Bolt is mostly an excuse for Pearl Jam to hit the road, with new songs to play and old ones to dust off, with an aggressiveness some feared the band lost in the four years since Backspacer. If anything, it condenses the entirety of Pearl Jam’s career into 12 loud when they’re not soft songs, raw when they’re not gentle, admirable power ballads, profound in a shallow sort of way. Lightning Bolt is the MOST Pearl Jam album, for better or worse.

7. Riot Act (2002)

So it goes that every even sort-of moody album released in 2002 is about September 11th, which leads us to sentences like, “The lyrics deal with mortality and existentialism, with much influence from the political climate after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks…” Freed from the context of a tragedy, though, Riot Act is: fine. “Can’t Keep” and “Green Disease” are songs we’ve heard before, but not as good and more weary. Eddie Vedder sounds tired, the band unable to redefine themselves, something something 9/11. There’s a reason the world had to wait four years for the next album.

6. Backspacer (2009)

“Hey, you wanna listen to some Pearl Jam?” “Sure!” “Which one?” “Gotta go with Backspacer, bro.” That conversation has never, ever happened. Backspacer is the band’s most forgettable album, not because it’s bad exactly, but because it’s intentionally minor. Eleven tracks over 36 minutes, and it feels quicker than that. Compared to the rest of their discography, bright songs like “The Fixer” and “Got Some” are downright peppy and positive (it’s no coincidence when you consider who was elected President in 2008). It’s the kind of loose album that you forget about, until you put it on, then you question why it doesn’t receive more attention. (I’m already regretting not putting it in the top-five.) And then the whole process starts anew.



5. Pearl Jam (2006)

Yet another “return to roots” album, Pearl Jam, or as it’s affectionately known, The Avocado Album, is a rocking affair. No more experimenting, no more nebulas; it sounds like a riot, not an act, impassioned and personal. For the first time in over a decade, Pearl Jam went into the studio without any finished songs, only guitar riffs, and that coupled with Vedder’s angry, hurt lyrics concerning “moral issues of our time,” i.e. President George W. Bush, make for a catchy, frustrated (rather than frustrating) barnburner from a band that sounds energized and refreshed.

4. Yield (1998)

Or, the album where Pearl Jam became more than Eddie Vedder…and some other guys in flannel. The other members of the band had a larger hand in shaping the sound of Yield, with Vedder only receiving sole songwriting credit on eight songs, unlike No Code‘s 12. Too many cooks in the kitchen can often lead to disaster, but Pearl Jam wisely got back to their grunge-rock roots after the disappointing reception their previous album was met with. Yield is fairly unadventurous and mostly tidy, and therefore not as memorable as the Big Three, but there is some weirdness lingering around the edges, like on the festering, spoken “Push Me, Pull Me.” The album isn’t a good entry point for Pearl Jam newcomers, with the possible exception of the simple single “Wishlist,” but it’s a revealing listen for long-time fans, hearing a group try to sound like its former self while evolving at the same time.


3. Ten (1991)

The power of Ten is perfectly encapsulated in the scene above, taken from an episode of Eastbound & Down. A grieving Kenny Powers crashes Shane Dog’s funeral carrying a boombox on his shoulder. The songs he picked to honor his fallen friend’s badass legacy: Candlebox’s “Far Behind” and after finishing his touching eulogy with “anyone who wants to step up to this sh*t better recognize,” Pearl Jam’s “Alive.” Forgive the obviousness, but it’s probably Pearl Jam’s greatest song, loud enough to fill an arena, but personal enough to be played at a funeral. Ten is earnest and cathartic in the best way possible, without sacrificing any of the Pearl Jam’s eventual-trademark textured, grooved riffs. It still sounds great 22 years later. Unlike Candlebox. (Sorry.)

2. Vs. (1993)

Vs. sold 950,378 copies during its first five days of release, a then-record. Pearl Jam was one of the biggest rock bands in the world, and they sound like it on Vs. It’s a huge album, the one that solidified the template for the “Pearl Jam sound”: hoarse vocals; paranoid lyrics; self-righteous themes; soaring guitar solos; a dense rhythm section; epics balanced with reflective ballads. It’s impressively confident, especially from a band that became unintentional mega-stars, practically overnight; where other groups might have retreated, Pearl Jam got better.

1. Vitalogy (1994)

Confession: “Bugs” is one of my favorite Pearl Jam songs. It wheezes and lurches, and it’s so far beyond anything the band had recorded up to that point. It, and all of Vitalogy, are wholly unique, a tag not often associated with Pearl Jam — even on Ten, you can hear the influences; on the darkly weird Vitalogy, they’re doing something new, something peculiar, something fleeting that they’d never be quite able to tap into again.

Re: Pearl Jam underrated/overrated/properly rated

Posted: Wed October 16, 2013 1:09 am
by Strat
Ugh. That write up about Binaural pisses me off.


RIP that reviewer :peace:

Re: Pearl Jam underrated/overrated/properly rated

Posted: Wed October 16, 2013 1:10 am
by stip
it's not as good as that other binaural comment

Binaural (2000) I once had a conversation with this guy about Pearl Jam in which he claimed that the band's best era was 1998 to 2002. This is the sort of argument a person makes after digesting so much of a particular artist's work that it has driven him to the brink of insanity. It's like saying, "You know, Raging Bull and Goodfellas are solid, but they pale in comparison to Scorsese's output from 1997 to 2002."3 The early '00s were clearly a bad time for Pearl Jam — Mike McCready4 struggled with drug addiction, there was the Roskilde tragedy,5 and the band was perceived by many casual observers as passé. Pearl Jam should've taken an extended break after Yield, but instead it plowed forward with the most dispiriting and deeply confused record of its career. Binaural represents the worst instance of Pearl Jam attempting to make music least suited to its specific skill set — it's a record of dense atmospherics and measured brooding by the most stridently anthemic and emotive band of its generation. What's supposed to be a pained, delicate sigh comes off as a dull, thudding roar. Binaural is a three-dimensional sonic representation of a band being flattened against a psychic brick wall. PROPERLY RATED.

Overrated, Underrated, or Properly Rated

Posted: Fri January 30, 2015 7:59 pm
by B
This was a pretty fun article. Anything you would change?

http://grantland.com/features/pearl-jam ... rly-rated/

Re: Overrated, Underrated, or Properly Rated

Posted: Sat January 31, 2015 3:13 pm
by Bammer
Thanks for the link

Re: Overrated, Underrated, or Properly Rated

Posted: Sat January 31, 2015 3:26 pm
by LetMeSleep
Some PJ fans have horrible taste.

Re: Overrated, Underrated, or Properly Rated

Posted: Sat January 31, 2015 3:46 pm
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
What a doofus.

Re: Overrated, Underrated, or Properly Rated

Posted: Sat January 31, 2015 3:48 pm
by Kevin Davis
Steven Hyden has written some stuff I have really liked, but this "overrated/underrated" series (he has done these for other artists too) is pretty dumb.

Re: Overrated, Underrated, or Properly Rated

Posted: Sat January 31, 2015 3:54 pm
by digster
Binaural is a three-dimensional sonic representation of a band being flattened against a psychic brick wall.
I like how in attempting to slight the album, he pinpoints one of the main things that makes Binaural so compelling.

Re: Overrated, Underrated, or Properly Rated

Posted: Sat January 31, 2015 4:19 pm
by Coach
digster wrote:
Binaural is a three-dimensional sonic representation of a band being flattened against a psychic brick wall.
I like how in attempting to slight the album, he pinpoints one of the main things that makes Binaural so compelling.
Agreed

Re: Overrated, Underrated, or Properly Rated

Posted: Sat January 31, 2015 4:58 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
As long as it isn't ranking

Re: Overrated, Underrated, or Properly Rated

Posted: Sat January 31, 2015 6:42 pm
by Norah
Didn't we have a thread for this article when it was first published?

Re: Overrated, Underrated, or Properly Rated

Posted: Sat January 31, 2015 7:42 pm
by B
*shrugs* I'm sure you'll shame me whether we did or not.