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Re: Division 4 Round at: Cold Confession vs. Army Reserve
Posted: Mon March 02, 2015 9:37 pm
by Birds in Hell
Strat wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:B wrote:I'm starting to fear that I don't like Matt Cameron's drumming.
I love both Matt Cameron's drumming and his songwriting but I don't think his style works in Pearl Jam.
Pearl Jam haven't made an album I love since Matt joined and I don't think they can while he remains in the band.
Bummer.
You think its really all on the drummer though?
No, it's definitely not Matt's fault, but I don't think good songwriting alone is enough either.
Re: Division 4 Round at: Cold Confession vs. Army Reserve
Posted: Tue March 03, 2015 12:57 am
by B
I feel the same way about the post-Yield albums, but I just thought that's b/c I graduated college about then.
Re: Division 4 Round at: Cold Confession vs. Army Reserve
Posted: Tue March 03, 2015 1:16 am
by Birds in Hell
I don't think it's any coincidence that my favourite Pearl Jam songs since 1998 are largely those Matt has written (Evacuation, In the Moonlight, Cropduster, Unemployable, etc.)
I seem to find it a lot easier to enjoy songs where the band adapts to Matt's more cerebral musical sensibility than him trying to find a way to work into theirs.
Re: Division 4 Round at: Cold Confession vs. Army Reserve
Posted: Tue March 03, 2015 5:16 am
by Leatherhead
I'll say that I think Ten-Yield would be just as good as they are had Matt been in PJ then.
Re: Division 4 Round at: Cold Confession vs. Army Reserve
Posted: Tue March 03, 2015 6:42 am
by LoathedVermin72
Leatherhead wrote:I'll say that I think Ten-Yield would be just as good as they are had Matt been in PJ then.
no
Re: Division 4 Round at: Cold Confession vs. Army Reserve
Posted: Tue March 03, 2015 10:31 am
by William Bloke
CC for what it could be.
Re: Division 4 Round at: Cold Confession vs. Army Reserve
Posted: Tue March 03, 2015 11:32 am
by BurtReynolds
Army Reserve sucks guys. It shouldn't be winning.
Re: Division 4 Round at: Cold Confession vs. Army Reserve
Posted: Tue March 03, 2015 1:26 pm
by darth_vedder
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Leatherhead wrote:I'll say that I think Ten-Yield would be just as good as they are had Matt been in PJ then.
no
Exactly. Have you heard Matt try to drum to Who You Are? It's pathetic.
Re: Division 4 Round at: Cold Confession vs. Army Reserve
Posted: Tue March 03, 2015 2:10 pm
by stip
he would have made GTF and DTE better, though.
Re: Division 4 Round at: Cold Confession vs. Army Reserve
Posted: Tue March 03, 2015 3:09 pm
by LoathedVermin72
stip wrote:he would have made GTF and DTE better, though.
no
Re: Division 4 Round at: Cold Confession vs. Army Reserve
Posted: Tue March 03, 2015 3:10 pm
by Kevin Davis
stip wrote:he would have made GTF and DTE better, though.
Really? I've always found Jack's drumming in "GTF" to be critical to the calming, gentle rumble of that song's verses. I don't think any of the Matt-era versions -- fine though many of them have been in their own regard -- come close to achieving that feel.
I like Matt as a drummer, even with PJ, but he causes most of the Irons songs to suffer in character.
Re: Division 4 Round at: Cold Confession vs. Army Reserve
Posted: Tue March 03, 2015 3:49 pm
by epilogue
stip wrote:he would have made GTF and DTE better, though.
Wait, what? Cameron? Matt? Cameron? Would've made GTF BETTER? Better, you're saying? Matt Cameron? Better on GTF than Jack Irons?
Wait, what?
Re: Division 4 Round at: Cold Confession vs. Army Reserve
Posted: Tue March 03, 2015 3:50 pm
by Norah
Stip is out of control.
Re: Division 4 Round at: Cold Confession vs. Army Reserve
Posted: Tue March 03, 2015 3:54 pm
by epilogue
LikeImean, I get different opinions and whatever. But that might be the weirdest thing I've ever seen him post.
Re: Division 4 Round at: Cold Confession vs. Army Reserve
Posted: Tue March 03, 2015 4:13 pm
by Thejambi
cutuphalfdead wrote:Stip is out of control.
Re: Division 4 Round at: Cold Confession vs. Army Reserve
Posted: Tue March 03, 2015 4:17 pm
by darth_vedder
Thejambi wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Stip is out of control.
He's like a gremmie.
Re: Division 4 Round at: Cold Confession vs. Army Reserve
Posted: Tue March 03, 2015 4:19 pm
by LoathedVermin72
darth_vedder wrote:Thejambi wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Stip is out of control.
He's like a gremmie.

Re: Division 4 Round at: Cold Confession vs. Army Reserve
Posted: Tue March 03, 2015 4:25 pm
by darth_vedder
LoathedVermin72 wrote:darth_vedder wrote:Thejambi wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Stip is out of control.
He's like a gremmie.

You know you loved it.
Re: Division 4 Round at: Cold Confession vs. Army Reserve
Posted: Tue March 03, 2015 4:26 pm
by Thejambi
darth_vedder wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:darth_vedder wrote:Thejambi wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Stip is out of control.
He's like a gremmie.

You know you loved it.
it gave me half a tickle.
Re: Division 4 Round at: Cold Confession vs. Army Reserve
Posted: Tue March 03, 2015 4:27 pm
by darth_vedder
Thejambi wrote:darth_vedder wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:darth_vedder wrote:Thejambi wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Stip is out of control.
He's like a gremmie.

You know you loved it.
it gave me half a tickle.
