Red Mosquito

darth_vedder wrote:

Fuzzcharger wrote:

southp wrote:Anyone watch Shameless? They dissed Wilco a few weeks ago...

"Is that music for dad's with receding hairlines and shit?"

As offensive as that stereotype is, they may actually have a point.

So I guess Soundgarden and Pearl Jam, and pretty much any band with members who are 35+, are "dad rock"?

I'm not sure what SG and PJ have to do with that original statement. That's quite a leap you've taken there.

Have you seen the crowd at a Wilco concert?

Fuzzcharger wrote:

darth_vedder wrote:

Fuzzcharger wrote:

southp wrote:Anyone watch Shameless? They dissed Wilco a few weeks ago...

"Is that music for dad's with receding hairlines and shit?"

As offensive as that stereotype is, they may actually have a point.

So I guess Soundgarden and Pearl Jam, and pretty much any band with members who are 35+, are "dad rock"?

I'm not sure what SG and PJ have to do with that original statement. That's quite a leap you've taken there.

Have you seen the crowd at a Wilco concert?

I saw a lot of bald dudes and dads at the Soundgarden show I recently attended. So does that make Soundgarden "dad rock"?

My point is, what the fuck does that mean? A lot of guys in bands that we listen to have kids, so is all of it dad rock?

Fuzzcharger wrote:Have you seen the crowd at a Wilco concert?

I have. It's fairly heterogeneous. At least the show I went to.

darth_vedder wrote:

Fuzzcharger wrote:

darth_vedder wrote:

Fuzzcharger wrote:

southp wrote:Anyone watch Shameless? They dissed Wilco a few weeks ago...

"Is that music for dad's with receding hairlines and shit?"

As offensive as that stereotype is, they may actually have a point.

So I guess Soundgarden and Pearl Jam, and pretty much any band with members who are 35+, are "dad rock"?

I'm not sure what SG and PJ have to do with that original statement. That's quite a leap you've taken there.

Have you seen the crowd at a Wilco concert?

I saw a lot of bald dudes and dads at the Soundgarden show I recently attended. So does that make Soundgarden "dad rock"?

My point is, what the fuck does that mean? A lot of guys in bands that we listen to have kids, so is all of it dad rock?

You seem quite upset about this dad thing. Why is it an issue that someone thinks Wilco isn't a band that a lot of 20 year olds listen too? I'm not saying the original statement isn't a gross generalisation cause obviously it is, but it doesn't seem like that big a shock that someone might think that about the Wilco fanbase.

Fuzzcharger wrote:

darth_vedder wrote:

Fuzzcharger wrote:

darth_vedder wrote:

Fuzzcharger wrote:

southp wrote:Anyone watch Shameless? They dissed Wilco a few weeks ago...

"Is that music for dad's with receding hairlines and shit?"

As offensive as that stereotype is, they may actually have a point.

So I guess Soundgarden and Pearl Jam, and pretty much any band with members who are 35+, are "dad rock"?

I'm not sure what SG and PJ have to do with that original statement. That's quite a leap you've taken there.

Have you seen the crowd at a Wilco concert?

I saw a lot of bald dudes and dads at the Soundgarden show I recently attended. So does that make Soundgarden "dad rock"?

My point is, what the fuck does that mean? A lot of guys in bands that we listen to have kids, so is all of it dad rock?

You seem quite upset about this dad thing. Why is it an issue that someone thinks Wilco isn't a band that a lot of 20 year olds listen too? I'm not saying the original statement isn't a gross generalisation cause obviously it is, but it doesn't seem like that big a shock that someone might think that about the Wilco fanbase.

Oh, sorry, totally not upset. Just questioning what dad rock is. I mean, I get it, yeah, but it's just an odd category of rock music for me. I mean I guess it's insanely broad.

So is all music, except that being made by younguns dad rock? Is Sonic Youth now dad rock? I guess dad rock is meant to imply that it's safe, predictable, sterile, boring white guy music? Maybe just a step above muzak?

darth_vedder wrote:

Fuzzcharger wrote:

darth_vedder wrote:

Fuzzcharger wrote:

darth_vedder wrote:

Fuzzcharger wrote:

southp wrote:Anyone watch Shameless? They dissed Wilco a few weeks ago...

"Is that music for dad's with receding hairlines and shit?"

As offensive as that stereotype is, they may actually have a point.

So I guess Soundgarden and Pearl Jam, and pretty much any band with members who are 35+, are "dad rock"?

I'm not sure what SG and PJ have to do with that original statement. That's quite a leap you've taken there.

Have you seen the crowd at a Wilco concert?

I saw a lot of bald dudes and dads at the Soundgarden show I recently attended. So does that make Soundgarden "dad rock"?

My point is, what the fuck does that mean? A lot of guys in bands that we listen to have kids, so is all of it dad rock?

You seem quite upset about this dad thing. Why is it an issue that someone thinks Wilco isn't a band that a lot of 20 year olds listen too? I'm not saying the original statement isn't a gross generalisation cause obviously it is, but it doesn't seem like that big a shock that someone might think that about the Wilco fanbase.

Oh, sorry, totally not upset. Just questioning what dad rock is. I mean, I get it, yeah, but it's just an odd category of rock music for me. I mean I guess it's insanely broad.

So is all music, except that being made by younguns dad rock? Is Sonic Youth now dad rock? I guess dad rock is meant to imply that it's safe, predictable, sterile, boring white guy music? Maybe just a step above muzak?

Perhaps if we don't even delve in to the method of defining dad rock its existence will cease.

darth_vedder wrote: Oh, sorry, totally not upset. Just questioning what dad rock is. I mean, I get it, yeah, but it's just an odd category of rock music for me. I mean I guess it's insanely broad.

So is all music, except that being made by younguns dad rock? Is Sonic Youth now dad rock? I guess dad rock is meant to imply that it's safe, predictable, sterile, boring white guy music? Maybe just a step above muzak?

Nothing to apologise for.

I dare say it's just to distinguish the music of a previous generation from the current but it is a awful term and it probably implies some degree of musical conservatism. Mind you I guess it's no different to me in the 90's referring to Dire Straits, Van Morrison or any of that sort of thing as dad rock.

oasisfan35 wrote: Perhaps if we don't even delve in to the method of defining dad rock its existence will cease.

Yes. Please.

If wilco is dad rock, then i like me some dad rock

Guys, have you seen the writers of "Shameless"?






They're probably big Wilco fans just poking fun at themselves.

I don't even know what shameless is

theplatypus wrote:

Fuzzcharger wrote:Have you seen the crowd at a Wilco concert?

I have. It's fairly heterogeneous. At least the show I went to.

Yeah. When I saw them in August there were all sorts of different people there. From old dudes without hair to annoying teenage girls and everything in between.

cutuphalfdead wrote: Yeah. When I saw them in August there were all sorts of different people there. From old dudes without hair to annoying teenage girls and everything in between.

Obviously dads bringing their kids or mid-life crisis affairs along.

theplatypus wrote: They're probably big Wilco fans just poking fun at themselves.

I'd say that's the case. Mike Omalley wore a Son Volt shirt a few times on that awful show he was one(not GUTS) and they also had John Hiatt as a guest star when his character has a near death experience and he's trying to do all this cool stuff. Seems like his sorta music.


I've heard alot of people call Wilco dad rock and while I think it's dumb I think it stems from a perception that a band has settled into a certain way of doing things, the way alot of guys do when they become dads, more than the actual style of music.

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:I don't even know what shameless is

You're missing out. It's a great show.
When they made the original comment during that episode I felt like a slight loser because I also like Wilco (yet I'm not a balding dad), but then I realized it was just a good joke.

Kevin Davis wrote:Rank 'em? Sure, why not.

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
A Ghost is Born
The Whole Love
Summerteeth
Sky Blue Sky
Wilco (The Album)
Being There
A.M.

I love 'em all, though.

You putting The Whole Love above Summerteeth, SBS, Wilco and Being There makes me think I need to give it more listens.

AGIB
SBS
Being There
YHF
Summerteeth
Wilco
The Whole Love
Being There

So, how about that More Like The Moon EP?

I'm not the biggest Wilco fan in the world, but A Ghost Is Born is my favorite.

Chris_H_2 wrote:So, how about that More Like The Moon EP?

Not sure i know that one, when did it come out?