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Re: Demographic Maps

Posted: Sat April 06, 2013 5:30 am
by Dscans
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Electromatic wrote:Western Mass? interesting.


Do you know if this data is pre or post California/Colorado legalizaton laws?
Amherst/Northampton, bro.
Word.

Re: Demographic Maps

Posted: Sat April 06, 2013 10:59 pm
by Chloe
BurtReynolds wrote:weed just makes me want to take a nap. I never got the love for it.
You were doing it wrong :)
It used to be a fun way for me to explore Chicago when I first moved there. I'd load a bunch of new music on my mp3 player and learn bus/train routes :)

Re: Demographic Maps

Posted: Wed April 10, 2013 10:31 pm
by dimejinky99
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Re: Demographic Maps

Posted: Thu April 11, 2013 1:07 am
by Green Habit
Since you're Irish, what percentage of ancestry do you think you need to truly be able to call yourself an Irish-American? I'm skeptical that all of the people counted there would meet your threshold.

Re: Demographic Maps

Posted: Thu April 11, 2013 1:42 am
by dimejinky99
Me personally? Really it should be just if your parents are Irish but thats not what America is about it seems really tribal still in that everyone seems to have to identify as part of a group that makes up the whole. I don't know. A great grandfather maybe? 40 million Americans claim Irishheritage. Second biggest group after Germanic/Scandinavians. You never really hear those people go on about it though, strangely.

Re: Demographic Maps

Posted: Thu April 11, 2013 5:30 am
by Norah
Everyone in America claims another nation for their nationality no matter how far back in your lineage you have to go to get to that country.

Re: Demographic Maps

Posted: Thu April 11, 2013 6:08 am
by nyquillyn
cutuphalfdead wrote:Everyone in America claims another nation for their nationality no matter how far back in your lineage you have to go to get to that country.
Only people who don't know what "nationality" means do this.

Re: Demographic Maps

Posted: Thu April 11, 2013 6:16 am
by Norah
turned2black wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:Everyone in America claims another nation for their nationality no matter how far back in your lineage you have to go to get to that country.
Only people who don't know what "nationality" means do this.
sigh

Re: Demographic Maps

Posted: Thu April 11, 2013 6:28 am
by nyquillyn
cutuphalfdead wrote:
turned2black wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:Everyone in America claims another nation for their nationality no matter how far back in your lineage you have to go to get to that country.
Only people who don't know what "nationality" means do this.
sigh
Hmmmmm

Re: Demographic Maps

Posted: Thu April 11, 2013 2:19 pm
by @SkitchP
dimejinky99 wrote:Me personally? Really it should be just if your parents are Irish but thats not what America is about it seems really tribal still in that everyone seems to have to identify as part of a group that makes up the whole. I don't know. A great grandfather maybe? 40 million Americans claim Irishheritage. Second biggest group after Germanic/Scandinavians. You never really hear those people go on about it though, strangely.

I would think that is because so many of us have ancestors within 2-3 generations that were from the nation they mention, so while a person may not have ever been to the country of origin, they have family members they have contact with that did immigrate. For example, I identify myself as partially Greek, well my grandfather was 100% Greek, and his parents were born there. So part of my background is greek, so I identify with it to a certain extent. I think with each passing generation there will be less and less of that. While I'm a quarter greek, my kids are half of that.. and wont have the personal contact with the people that were actually born there.

Re: Demographic Maps

Posted: Wed June 05, 2013 9:13 pm
by Green Habit
Californians are infiltrating the rest of the West with their soda talk:

2003:
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2013:
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You can find more fun maps here: http://www.businessinsider.com/22-maps- ... 013-6?op=1
...and maybe here, when this website stops crashing: spark.rstudio.com/jkatz/SurveyMaps/

The one I really want to know is what on earth the Mormon belt is calling this other than a sub:
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Re: Demographic Maps

Posted: Wed June 05, 2013 9:16 pm
by Green Habit
Oh, and I want Joshua Katz to do another survey asking people "What place do you think of when you hear the word 'Washington'"? I bet that would provide a nice split, and it reminds me how much it grinds my gears when I read East Coast writers print the phrase "Washington state" over and over without referring to the university in Pullman.

Re: Demographic Maps

Posted: Wed June 05, 2013 9:17 pm
by Chloe
Can't say I completely agree with that "pop" map. I picked up "soda" from Chicago (it's listed as "pop") when I had gone my entire life calling it "pop" in Oregon.

Re: Demographic Maps

Posted: Wed June 05, 2013 9:17 pm
by EJ
Green Habit wrote:
The one I really want to know is what on earth the Mormon belt is calling this other than a sub:

a grinder, maybe? That was a pretty normal term around where I grew up in Connecticut.

Re: Demographic Maps

Posted: Wed June 05, 2013 9:19 pm
by BurtReynolds
its a po-boy. not sure what Mormons call it though.

Re: Demographic Maps

Posted: Wed June 05, 2013 9:47 pm
by Green Habit
EJ wrote:
Green Habit wrote:The one I really want to know is what on earth the Mormon belt is calling this other than a sub:
a grinder, maybe? That was a pretty normal term around where I grew up in Connecticut.
Some really simple Googling may suggest that you're onto something. I think of the Eastern corridor when I hear that usage, though (as you pointed out).

Re: Demographic Maps

Posted: Thu June 06, 2013 2:06 am
by Whitey McTeeth
I call soda soda, and subs hoagies.

Re: Demographic Maps

Posted: Thu June 06, 2013 11:15 am
by simple schoolboy
Green Habit wrote:Californians are infiltrating the rest of the West with their soda talk:

2003:
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2013:
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You can find more fun maps here: http://www.businessinsider.com/22-maps- ... 013-6?op=1
...and maybe here, when this website stops crashing: spark.rstudio.com/jkatz/SurveyMaps/

The one I really want to know is what on earth the Mormon belt is calling this other than a sub:
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Sadly, Californians are bringing their stupid politics as well as the appropriate term for carbonated soft drinks.

Re: Demographic Maps

Posted: Thu June 06, 2013 4:26 pm
by Green Habit
Katz got all of his maps up on an Amazon AWS so we can now comment on the rest of them--hopefully (I got halfway through and then it started crashing again.

Here's another one that drives me nuts about East Coasters (and apparently Southerners as well), except that although it's the same mispronunciation, I think it's more egregious with a different state: Oregon. And no, I'm not talking about the "-gone" ending that drives most Oregonians mad. I'm talking about the beginning. It begins with a freaking O, it's not spelled Aregon. Say it after me: OH-ri-gun.

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Re: Demographic Maps

Posted: Thu June 06, 2013 4:40 pm
by Green Habit
Green Habit wrote:
EJ wrote:
Green Habit wrote:The one I really want to know is what on earth the Mormon belt is calling this other than a sub:
a grinder, maybe? That was a pretty normal term around where I grew up in Connecticut.
Some really simple Googling may suggest that you're onto something. I think of the Eastern corridor when I hear that usage, though (as you pointed out).
Turns out a small but sizeable minority (around 17%) call it a hoagie. Don't know why.

But here's another one that I've noticed that the Mormon belt screws up, and I have no reason why. A friend of mine is originally from Eastern Idaho and there are several words in which he pronounces the "ee" like an "ih". I'm not sure about miracle, but the one word I notice from him is "deal"--which he pronounces "dill". I don't get it at all.

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