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Re: The All-Inclusive Science Fiction Thread
Posted: Wed July 17, 2019 7:40 pm
by washing machine
tragabigzanda wrote:Are there direct lyrical connection between that book and the SY song?
Yep. Here's a character description of the main character, from Wiki
Aged 32 during the events of Pattern Recognition, Cayce lives in New York City. Though named by her parents after Edgar Cayce, she pronounces her given name "Case".[4] She is a freelance marketing consultant, a coolhunter with an unusual intuitive sensitivity for branding,[5] manifested primarily in her physical aversion to particular logos and corporate mascots.
Re: The All-Inclusive Science Fiction Thread
Posted: Wed July 17, 2019 7:47 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: The All-Inclusive Science Fiction Thread
Posted: Wed July 17, 2019 7:53 pm
by washing machine
Not the first time SY looked to William Gibson for inspiration, either. There’s one or two references on Daydream Nation as well. Most obviously, The Sprawl, a direct title reference his Sprawl trilogy, beginning with the seminal novel, Neuromancer.
Re: The All-Inclusive Science Fiction Thread
Posted: Wed July 17, 2019 8:00 pm
by epilogue
washing machine wrote:What did you think?
I really liked it.
Re: The All-Inclusive Science Fiction Thread
Posted: Wed July 17, 2019 8:02 pm
by washing machine
Excellent. I might re-read it soon.
Re: The All-Inclusive Science Fiction Thread
Posted: Wed July 17, 2019 9:41 pm
by washing machine
Mickey wrote:My absolute favorite sci-fi factlet is that in the 1970s and 80s the American Marxist literary critic Fredric Jameson wrote extensively about science-fiction through his theory on the political efficacy of narrative. One of his most used examples was Philip K. Dick. At some point Dick got word of this and wrote a letter the CIA asking them to get this communist fucker to stop writing about him.
Weird that Jameson was mentioned right before I started talking about William Gibson in this thread. I dove a little bit into the wikipedia page for Pattern Recognition and came across these quotes from him.
The novel's language is viewed as rife with labeling and product placements.[28] Postmodern theorist Fredric Jameson calls it "a kind of hyped-up name-dropping ... [where] an encyclopaedic familiarity with the fashions ... [creates] class status as a matter of knowing the score rather than of having money and power".[29] He also calls it "postmodern nominalism"[29] in that the names express the new and fashionable.[29]
Here's the article.
Re: The All-Inclusive Science Fiction Thread
Posted: Wed July 17, 2019 10:40 pm
by Mickey
God I love Jameson. And he loves sci-fi
Re: The All-Inclusive Science Fiction Thread
Posted: Wed July 17, 2019 10:41 pm
by washing machine
I liked what I read.
Re: The All-Inclusive Science Fiction Thread
Posted: Wed August 30, 2023 11:23 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Re: The All-Inclusive Science Fiction Thread
Posted: Thu August 31, 2023 2:49 am
by Ello Sailor
Nice one, Ruddo.
That reminds me, I've been meaning to pick up Simon Stålenhag's art books. His stuff is amazing.
Re: The All-Inclusive Science Fiction Thread
Posted: Thu August 31, 2023 4:03 am
by BurtReynolds
Ello Sailor wrote:Nice one, Ruddo.
That reminds me, I've been meaning to pick up Simon Stålenhag's art books. His stuff is amazing.
I've got 3 of them. Good stuff.
Re: The All-Inclusive Science Fiction Thread
Posted: Thu August 31, 2023 8:24 pm
by Ello Sailor
BurtReynolds wrote:Ello Sailor wrote:Nice one, Ruddo.
That reminds me, I've been meaning to pick up Simon Stålenhag's art books. His stuff is amazing.
I've got 3 of them. Good stuff.
Dang, balling out of control. Which 3?
Re: The All-Inclusive Science Fiction Thread
Posted: Thu August 31, 2023 8:33 pm
by BurtReynolds
The Electric State
Things From the Flood
Labyrinth
The stories are good, too.
What do you think about his show?
Re: The All-Inclusive Science Fiction Thread
Posted: Thu August 31, 2023 8:51 pm
by Ello Sailor
Never seen it. Looks like it's only on Amazon Prime, which isn't really a thing where I'm from. I'll have to do some digging around.
Re: The All-Inclusive Science Fiction Thread
Posted: Thu August 31, 2023 8:55 pm
by BurtReynolds
It's alright, given the tiny budget. Pretty slow, though.
Re: The All-Inclusive Science Fiction Thread
Posted: Thu August 31, 2023 10:46 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
I’ve got Labyrinth. May check out his show
Re: The All-Inclusive Science Fiction Thread
Posted: Thu August 31, 2023 10:49 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
You’re talking about Tales From the Loop, right?
Re: The All-Inclusive Science Fiction Thread
Posted: Fri September 01, 2023 5:07 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Cool, thanks for answering
Re: The All-Inclusive Science Fiction Thread
Posted: Fri September 01, 2023 5:10 pm
by Ello Sailor
That's the one.
Re: The All-Inclusive Science Fiction Thread
Posted: Fri September 01, 2023 7:16 pm
by BurtReynolds
I'm not on call 24/7!
