Red Mosquito

Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:

digster wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:Stone is easily the best and most interesting guitar player in the band for my tastes.

Agreed. I love Mike's work with the band, but for the most part his solos don't do a ton for me with some big exceptions (All or None, NAIS, Immortality). His solos in stuff like Go and Comatose are fine, but it's almost like they're just another instrument propelling the song further into fervency, rather than a piece in their own right. Stone has this Neil Young meets Steve Cropper thing that I think is pretty cool.

Stone, along with Jeff and Matt, strikes me as being pretty consistent live. The only thing he does that doesn't make sense to me is sometimes he'll just fart out an ending to a song rather than properly finish it. He does it a lot on the ending of In Hiding, where he plays the first measure or two and then seems to say "ah, fuck it" and bails out.

There used to be details to songs on the 2000 tour that kind of became "lost" through time...little "licks" that Stone used to play that are now replaced by standard chords. I don't think he gives a fuck.

Kevin Davis wrote:

Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:

digster wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:Stone is easily the best and most interesting guitar player in the band for my tastes.

Agreed. I love Mike's work with the band, but for the most part his solos don't do a ton for me with some big exceptions (All or None, NAIS, Immortality). His solos in stuff like Go and Comatose are fine, but it's almost like they're just another instrument propelling the song further into fervency, rather than a piece in their own right. Stone has this Neil Young meets Steve Cropper thing that I think is pretty cool.

Stone, along with Jeff and Matt, strikes me as being pretty consistent live. The only thing he does that doesn't make sense to me is sometimes he'll just fart out an ending to a song rather than properly finish it. He does it a lot on the ending of In Hiding, where he plays the first measure or two and then seems to say "ah, fuck it" and bails out.

There used to be details to songs on the 2000 tour that kind of became "lost" through time...little "licks" that Stone used to play that are now replaced by standard chords. I don't think he gives a fuck.

There is a version of "Insignificance" from Nashville in 2003 where Stone is just having a field day with little flourishes like that. Those were the days.

Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:

Kevin Davis wrote:

Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:

digster wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:Stone is easily the best and most interesting guitar player in the band for my tastes.

Agreed. I love Mike's work with the band, but for the most part his solos don't do a ton for me with some big exceptions (All or None, NAIS, Immortality). His solos in stuff like Go and Comatose are fine, but it's almost like they're just another instrument propelling the song further into fervency, rather than a piece in their own right. Stone has this Neil Young meets Steve Cropper thing that I think is pretty cool.

Stone, along with Jeff and Matt, strikes me as being pretty consistent live. The only thing he does that doesn't make sense to me is sometimes he'll just fart out an ending to a song rather than properly finish it. He does it a lot on the ending of In Hiding, where he plays the first measure or two and then seems to say "ah, fuck it" and bails out.

There used to be details to songs on the 2000 tour that kind of became "lost" through time...little "licks" that Stone used to play that are now replaced by standard chords. I don't think he gives a fuck.

There is a version of "Insignificance" from Nashville in 2003 where Stone is just having a field day with little flourishes like that. Those were the days.

He also makes a mistake and then freaks the fuck out at the end of the West Palm Beach version of "Save You". One of the rare occasions where a mistake made for a better version.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:

Kevin Davis wrote:

Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:

digster wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:Stone is easily the best and most interesting guitar player in the band for my tastes.

Agreed. I love Mike's work with the band, but for the most part his solos don't do a ton for me with some big exceptions (All or None, NAIS, Immortality). His solos in stuff like Go and Comatose are fine, but it's almost like they're just another instrument propelling the song further into fervency, rather than a piece in their own right. Stone has this Neil Young meets Steve Cropper thing that I think is pretty cool.

Stone, along with Jeff and Matt, strikes me as being pretty consistent live. The only thing he does that doesn't make sense to me is sometimes he'll just fart out an ending to a song rather than properly finish it. He does it a lot on the ending of In Hiding, where he plays the first measure or two and then seems to say "ah, fuck it" and bails out.

There used to be details to songs on the 2000 tour that kind of became "lost" through time...little "licks" that Stone used to play that are now replaced by standard chords. I don't think he gives a fuck.

There is a version of "Insignificance" from Nashville in 2003 where Stone is just having a field day with little flourishes like that. Those were the days.

He also makes a mistake and then freaks the fuck out at the end of the West Palm Beach version of "Save You". One of the rare occasions where a mistake made for a better version.

Ha. I vaguely remember this one

digster wrote:Agreed, though I've seen that from each member. I wonder how many things are getting sacrificed for speed.

Birds in Hell wrote:Stone is easily the best and most interesting guitar player in the band for my tastes.

joostone wrote:well, Stone did a lot on BS and LB. Lots of very interesting little guitar parts on LB.
But it's true that his songwriting contributions on those two are little..

evenslow wrote:All of that is true but when one-time band leader and all-around awesome player Stone Gossard has been reduced to something of a session player that accents the music, you've taken a wrong turn somewhere.

VinylGuy wrote:

evenslow wrote:All of that is true but when one-time band leader and all-around awesome player Stone Gossard has been reduced to something of a session player that accents the music, you've taken a wrong turn somewhere.

I dont feel he is been reduced to that at all.

evenslow wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:

evenslow wrote:All of that is true but when one-time band leader and all-around awesome player Stone Gossard has been reduced to something of a session player that accents the music, you've taken a wrong turn somewhere.

I dont feel he is been reduced to that at all.

The only songs he really wrote on Backspacer: Amongst the Waves, Supersonic
The only songs he really wrote on Lightning Bolt: Let the Records Play and a co-write on Infallible/Pendulum.

Maybe it's his fault for not using some of the Moonlander compositions with PJ. Or maybe it's the band's fault for not immediately responding to those demos. Whatever, we need more Stone.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:giving more control to the guy who wrote ltrp can only have a negative effect