Red Mosquito

Simple Torture wrote:The 2nd episode is still like 2 weeks away

Some quick thoughts on the plot of the premiere/where I think this is going. I'm going to watch again soon and wait to comment on performances/tone/and stuff like that then, now that I've got a clear idea of what's going on (spoilered for now since the first episode hasn't "aired"):

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If we had Nas's lawyer's (the Jesus's) perspective right now, things would look pretty bleak: he was read his rights but the interview and collection of evidence went so far before he asked for a lawyer that things are looking pretty bleak. But there have been a few "Hmmmm...." moments that are going to pop up again in the future, where people either made mistakes or outright lied. The big one is the breaking of the chain of evidence when it comes to Nas's clothes and stuff--when his lawyer finds this out, he'll be able to exclude all of that. The next big one, which is smaller, is that Bodie lied about being alone when he saw Nas and the girl head into her place. He was pretty adamant about being by himself, so there's something bigger going on there. The fact that the cops didn't give Nas a breathalyzer could also be significant, as that was another "break in custody" as it were.

Here's something I'm hoping for: I hope the show holds onto the possibility that Nas did commit the crime. We've been conditioned to believe that he's being set up or that there's something else going on--i.e., he's just a regular kid who's out of his element, he made a few mistakes and got mixed up in something, etc.--but the series will be a lot more interesting if they either lean on the possibility that he could be guilty (even if he was so intoxicated that he doesn't remember) or if, in the end, he ends up being the killer. I'm very excited to see how it turns out.

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the second dude (with Bodie) seems key. He gave a mean stare like that guy in the desert on Spaceballs who ain't found shit.

durdencommatyler wrote:So, the first episode that's been out for a while now airs tonight? But the second episode is next week?

cutuphalfdead wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:So, the first episode that's been out for a while now airs tonight? But the second episode is next week?

This is why I haven't watched the first episode yet.

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I think the fact that we didn't find out much about the girl--Andrea, but the fact that we're referring to her as "the girl" speaks volumes--is totally intentional. From here on out, we're going to learn about who she was from friends and family, and I betcha most of them will paint a portrait that totally clashes with the young woman Naz met; that'll cut into his credibility in the eyes of a jury and just about everyone else.

Simple Torture wrote:Can we agree that we don't have to use spoilers after tonight's airing? If you're in the thread after that, anything is fair game.

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:Can we agree that we don't have to use spoilers after tonight's airing? If you're in the thread after that, anything is fair game.

Of course. Same rules as any other tv show thread.

Simple Torture wrote:daft twat:

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I think the fact that we didn't find out much about the girl--Andrea, but the fact that we're referring to her as "the girl" speaks volumes--is totally intentional. From here on out, we're going to learn about who she was from friends and family, and I betcha most of them will paint a portrait that totally clashes with the young woman Naz met; that'll cut into his credibility in the eyes of a jury and just about everyone else.

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He couldn't have actually done it. He'd have blood all over himself. No chance he would have washed it all off except the one hand we saw get bloody

daft twat wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:daft twat:

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I think the fact that we didn't find out much about the girl--Andrea, but the fact that we're referring to her as "the girl" speaks volumes--is totally intentional. From here on out, we're going to learn about who she was from friends and family, and I betcha most of them will paint a portrait that totally clashes with the young woman Naz met; that'll cut into his credibility in the eyes of a jury and just about everyone else.

Hope you're right.

To your second earlier point:

Spoiler: show

He couldn't have actually done it. He'd have blood all over himself. No chance he would have washed it all off except the one hand we saw get bloody

Spoiler: show

You're probably right, so hopefully there's some sort of explanation that can keep that plot point going. I mean, he hasn't got blood all over him and the cops are convinced, right?

One other thing: he took her drugs and that hasn't come up again, has it? Are they in the cab, probably?

spike wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:Can we agree that we don't have to use spoilers after tonight's airing? If you're in the thread after that, anything is fair game.

Of course. Same rules as any other tv show thread.

i thought, with on demand and other replay options, that the common courtesy was to use spoilers for a day or two after the original airing?

Simple Torture wrote:

daft twat wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:daft twat:

Spoiler: show

I think the fact that we didn't find out much about the girl--Andrea, but the fact that we're referring to her as "the girl" speaks volumes--is totally intentional. From here on out, we're going to learn about who she was from friends and family, and I betcha most of them will paint a portrait that totally clashes with the young woman Naz met; that'll cut into his credibility in the eyes of a jury and just about everyone else.

Hope you're right.

To your second earlier point:

Spoiler: show

He couldn't have actually done it. He'd have blood all over himself. No chance he would have washed it all off except the one hand we saw get bloody

Spoiler: show

You're probably right, so hopefully there's some sort of explanation that can keep that plot point going. I mean, he hasn't got blood all over him and the cops are convinced, right?

One other thing: he took her drugs and that hasn't come up again, has it? Are they in the cab, probably?

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I think they're in the cab. The knife was on the dashboard before motorcycle guy saw it, or I assume he saw it. They lingered on motorcycle guy for a pretty long time.

cutuphalfdead wrote:Bodie would never just start talking to the cops like that.

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daft twat wrote:the second dude (with Bodie) seems key.

this

daft twat wrote:PS. This sort of reminded me of listening to that first case of Serial.