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Re: The 89th Academy Awards

Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 4:36 pm
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:I really want to see 20th Century Women, Arrival, Jackie, and Moonlight. I also want to see American Honey and Certain Women, but those didn't get any noms.
I also want to see American Honey and Certain Women.
I'm gonna try talk the wife into watching American Honey tonight.
How are you going to watch it?

Re: The 89th Academy Awards

Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 4:45 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Isabelle Huppert should win best actress and that's all that matters.

Re: The 89th Academy Awards

Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 4:46 pm
by epilogue
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Isabelle Huppert should win best actress and that's all that matters.
I've heard good things. Haven't seen the film, though.

Re: The 89th Academy Awards

Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 5:13 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Whoa, Gibson got a director nom?! That is fantastic!

Re: The 89th Academy Awards

Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 5:21 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
is garfield even considered A-list?

Re: The 89th Academy Awards

Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 5:22 pm
by epilogue
Andrew Garfield is a goddamn great actor. I have no idea why trag hates him so much. A list, B list, C list, W list... don't give a shit. He's fucking great in everything.

Re: The 89th Academy Awards

Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 5:22 pm
by epilogue
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Whoa, Gibson got a director nom?! That is fantastic!
I think it's interesting how surprised everyone is by this.

Re: The 89th Academy Awards

Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 5:25 pm
by bada
Well he was pretty much blacklisted for a few years there.

Re: The 89th Academy Awards

Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 5:26 pm
by LoathedVermin72
bada wrote:Well he was pretty much blacklisted for a few years there.
Yeah. Like over a decade.

Re: The 89th Academy Awards

Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 5:26 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: The 89th Academy Awards

Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 5:27 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Hey trag wanna come over and watch American Honey on my new TV

Re: The 89th Academy Awards

Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 5:35 pm
by epilogue
bada wrote:Well he was pretty much blacklisted for a few years there.
I... I'm not sure that's true, though.

We all got made at him for being a racist, misogynistic, lunatic asshole. But he's been active in Hollywood the entire time. He hasn't directed in a decade. But I'm not sure that's a blacklisting issue. Maybe it is. I really don't know. Just seems like he's been trying to find his next thing. He found it. And everyone agrees he's a great director. Seems weird that people are surprised that's being recognized. *shrug*

Re: The 89th Academy Awards

Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 5:42 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: The 89th Academy Awards

Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 5:43 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
durdencommatyler wrote:Andrew Garfield is a goddamn great actor. I have no idea why trag hates him so much. A list, B list, C list, W list... don't give a shit. He's fucking great in everything.
i like him and all, but i still don't consider him a-list

Re: The 89th Academy Awards

Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 5:43 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: The 89th Academy Awards

Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 5:44 pm
by epilogue
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:Andrew Garfield is a goddamn great actor. I have no idea why trag hates him so much. A list, B list, C list, W list... don't give a shit. He's fucking great in everything.
i like him and all, but i still don't consider him a-list
I've always been fuzzy on how these things are defined, Len.

Re: The 89th Academy Awards

Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 5:47 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
durdencommatyler wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:Andrew Garfield is a goddamn great actor. I have no idea why trag hates him so much. A list, B list, C list, W list... don't give a shit. He's fucking great in everything.
i like him and all, but i still don't consider him a-list
I've always been fuzzy on how these things are defined, Len.
a-list:

tom cruise
channing tatum
bruce willis
george pitt
ben damon

Re: The 89th Academy Awards

Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 5:49 pm
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
bada wrote:Well he was pretty much blacklisted for a few years there.
I... I'm not sure that's true, though.

We all got made at him for being a racist, misogynistic, lunatic asshole. But he's been active in Hollywood the entire time. He hasn't directed in a decade. But I'm not sure that's a blacklisting issue. Maybe it is. I really don't know. Just seems like he's been trying to find his next thing. He found it. And everyone agrees he's a great director. Seems weird that people are surprised that's being recognized. *shrug*
My assumption was that enough of the bankrolling for movies comes from Jewish people, so that he was probably having a tough time getting investors to support any movies he wanted to make. Was The Beaver the first thing he did after his rough patch?
He directed Apocalypto in 2006. His drunk driving incident was that same year. His domestic violence issue was in 2010. He appeared in the film Edge of Darkness that same year, 2010.

Re: The 89th Academy Awards

Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 5:52 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: The 89th Academy Awards

Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 5:52 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
tragabigzanda wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Hey trag wanna come over and watch American Honey on my new TV
Does your wife make authentic Mexican food? If so, I'm in.
But if she doesn't you wouldn't go hang with LV? Yikes, what a dick