Red Mosquito

tragabigzanda wrote:Which pisses me off. Kurt was every bit as excited to live out his rockstar dream. It just wasn't cool for any of them to enjoy it.

Kurt was better at hiding it becuse he was super fucked up and angry and just a dick. Ed was always a child in a candy store but just lost his way for a couple years there.

tragabigzanda wrote:Which pisses me off. Kurt was every bit as excited to live out his rockstar dream. It just wasn't cool for any of them to enjoy it.

I was just kidding but it pissed me off to see stone and ed say as much in Pj20.

It's like they're still living in the shadow of that band despite them surviving and still playing where he was a chicken shit cop out

dimejinky99 wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:Which pisses me off. Kurt was every bit as excited to live out his rockstar dream. It just wasn't cool for any of them to enjoy it.

I was just kidding but it pissed me off to see stone and ed say as much in Pj20.

It's like they're still living in the shadow of that band despite them surviving and still playing where he was a chicken shit cop out

Mike was the only one with some balls who said he didnt give a shit about what kurt thought.

tragabigzanda wrote:

Strat wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:Which pisses me off. Kurt was every bit as excited to live out his rockstar dream. It just wasn't cool for any of them to enjoy it.

Kurt was better at hiding it becuse he was super fucked up and angry and just a dick. Ed was always a child in a candy store but just lost his way for a couple years there.

At what point do you think he started texting Bono with his questions instead of Neil Young?

2005. Sure as shit.

That recording in montage of heck, kurt talking about having sex with the autistic girl when he was a kid? Can't even deal with that guy anymore. He was a kid too but the outcome of his telling of it was that he was unhappy he didn't know what to do. Not that he was ashamed that he did it.

dimejinky99 wrote:That recording in montage of heck, kurt talking about having sex with the autistic girl when he was a kid? Can't even deal with that guy anymore. He was a kid too but the outcome of his telling of it was that he was unhappy he didn't know what to do. Not that he was ashamed that he did it.

I've never seen Montage of Heck, everything about it is deeply unappealing, but I think it's important to take anything Kurt ever said on record with a gigantic grain of salt. He was a serious bullshitter.

I love Pearl Jam but they could make twenty more records as good as No Code and they'll never be as good a band as Nirvana to me.

Birds in Hell wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:That recording in montage of heck, kurt talking about having sex with the autistic girl when he was a kid? Can't even deal with that guy anymore. He was a kid too but the outcome of his telling of it was that he was unhappy he didn't know what to do. Not that he was ashamed that he did it.

I've never seen Montage of Heck, everything about it is deeply unappealing, but I think it's important to take anything Kurt ever said on record with a gigantic grain of salt. He was a serious bullshitter.

I love Pearl Jam but they could make twenty more records as good as No Code and they'll never be as good a band as Nirvana to me.

Blind love, buddy. respect.

Just kidding. Though, would you enjoy that same type of dirt documentary on pearl jam? I feel like since you dont like pearl jam as much and you also are more apt to mock vedder for his shortcomings ?

Birds in Hell wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:That recording in montage of heck, kurt talking about having sex with the autistic girl when he was a kid? Can't even deal with that guy anymore. He was a kid too but the outcome of his telling of it was that he was unhappy he didn't know what to do. Not that he was ashamed that he did it.

I've never seen Montage of Heck, everything about it is deeply unappealing, but I think it's important to take anything Kurt ever said on record with a gigantic grain of salt. He was a serious bullshitter.

I love Pearl Jam but they could make twenty more records as good as No Code and they'll never be as good a band as Nirvana to me.

You should watch it. It is disturbing. Especially the recorded stuff him talking and being interviewed. This wasn't bullshit. He's explaining something that happened in order to explain another point.

I don't compare them. Two utterly different bands doing utterly different things musically. I just enjoy pearl jam where I don't enjoy nirvana in any way at all.

Strat wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:Which pisses me off. Kurt was every bit as excited to live out his rockstar dream. It just wasn't cool for any of them to enjoy it.

I was just kidding but it pissed me off to see stone and ed say as much in Pj20.

It's like they're still living in the shadow of that band despite them surviving and still playing where he was a chicken shit cop out

Mike was the only one with some balls who said he didnt give a shit about what kurt thought.

Wasn't that Jeff?

evenslow wrote:

Strat wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:Which pisses me off. Kurt was every bit as excited to live out his rockstar dream. It just wasn't cool for any of them to enjoy it.

I was just kidding but it pissed me off to see stone and ed say as much in Pj20.

It's like they're still living in the shadow of that band despite them surviving and still playing where he was a chicken shit cop out

Mike was the only one with some balls who said he didnt give a shit about what kurt thought.

Wasn't that Jeff?

Thought it was mike in the pj20 book.

Strat wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:That recording in montage of heck, kurt talking about having sex with the autistic girl when he was a kid? Can't even deal with that guy anymore. He was a kid too but the outcome of his telling of it was that he was unhappy he didn't know what to do. Not that he was ashamed that he did it.

I've never seen Montage of Heck, everything about it is deeply unappealing, but I think it's important to take anything Kurt ever said on record with a gigantic grain of salt. He was a serious bullshitter.

I love Pearl Jam but they could make twenty more records as good as No Code and they'll never be as good a band as Nirvana to me.

Blind love, buddy. respect.

Just kidding. Though, would you enjoy that same type of dirt documentary on pearl jam? I feel like since you dont like pearl jam as much and you also are more apt to mock vedder for his shortcomings ?

I probably wouldn't watch it either way, rock band documentaries generally aren't something I enjoy that much.

I'd definitely read an interview where they were really open about the drummer stuff but who knows if they've ever really given it much thought themselves, I don't know if they'd have much to say that they haven't already. It's not difficult to understand why each drummer left/got fired and why they prefer playing with Matt.

Birds in Hell wrote:

Strat wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:That recording in montage of heck, kurt talking about having sex with the autistic girl when he was a kid? Can't even deal with that guy anymore. He was a kid too but the outcome of his telling of it was that he was unhappy he didn't know what to do. Not that he was ashamed that he did it.

I've never seen Montage of Heck, everything about it is deeply unappealing, but I think it's important to take anything Kurt ever said on record with a gigantic grain of salt. He was a serious bullshitter.

I love Pearl Jam but they could make twenty more records as good as No Code and they'll never be as good a band as Nirvana to me.

Blind love, buddy. respect.

Just kidding. Though, would you enjoy that same type of dirt documentary on pearl jam? I feel like since you dont like pearl jam as much and you also are more apt to mock vedder for his shortcomings ?

I probably wouldn't watch it either way, rock band documentaries generally aren't something I enjoy that much.

I'd definitely read an interview where they were really open about the drummer stuff but who knows if they've ever really given it much thought themselves, I don't know if they'd have much to say that they haven't already. It's not difficult to understand why each drummer left/got fired and why they prefer playing with Matt.

FTR: I don't give a shit what Kurt did or didnt do or what kind of attitude he had. It all comes down to the music and i loved Nirvanas music as well. Just a different type of love.

its only easier to make fun of Eddie/Pearl Jam because he didnt blow himself away during the peak

Strat wrote:

evenslow wrote:

Strat wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:Which pisses me off. Kurt was every bit as excited to live out his rockstar dream. It just wasn't cool for any of them to enjoy it.

I was just kidding but it pissed me off to see stone and ed say as much in Pj20.

It's like they're still living in the shadow of that band despite them surviving and still playing where he was a chicken shit cop out

Mike was the only one with some balls who said he didnt give a shit about what kurt thought.

Wasn't that Jeff?

Thought it was mike in the pj20 book.

It was Jeff yeah. Coolest motherfucker on earth.

Strat wrote:its only easier to make fun of Eddie/Pearl Jam because he didnt blow himself away during the peak

yep

Outside of Ed, there really isn't anything interesting about the other band members.

Pearl Jam was a better band when they were worried about what their peers thought of them. It's when they let that shit go that they turned into the mess they are today. Springsteen-lite.

I would say it has just as much (if not more) to do with them a) getting older and b) being in the same band with the same bros for 25 years.

At the 25 year mark, the Stones put out Steel Wheels, which is pretty comparable to Lightning Bolt. I don't think their biggest problem was that the Beatles weren't around to push them anymore.