Red Mosquito

malice wrote:I loved seeing dr dre now, as a 50 year old man who accomplished so much throughout his career. It's refreshing in the way i find pearl jam frustrating as grown men somehow... I feel like dr dre did what he set out to do and came out the other side as both successful and true to his own personal ethics, where pearl jam came out the other side as successful and complacent about their standards... Or maybe it was just ed who did, but i got a satisfying feeling from watching this set of shows that I'd been looking for in modern day pj, and have been missing. Not sure how else to explain it, and I'm not looking to argue about pearl jam with anyone, just trying to express my thoughts on what makes this such a cool series for me.

Jammer XCI wrote:Yeah this is pretty great, I've watched the first 2 episodes. I've been more interested in the Dr. Dre stuff compared to the Jimmy Iovine stuff so far.

malice wrote:

Jammer XCI wrote:Yeah this is pretty great, I've watched the first 2 episodes. I've been more interested in the Dr. Dre stuff compared to the Jimmy Iovine stuff so far.

I really had no clue the two were so closely linked, so watching them both talk about how it all played out was cool to me from either or both.

Spoiler: show

I especially liked the Interscope Records part. Rico Suave!

malice wrote:I loved seeing dr dre now, as a 50 year old man who accomplished so much throughout his career. It's refreshing in the way i find pearl jam frustrating as grown men somehow... I feel like dr dre did what he set out to do and came out the other side as both successful and true to his own personal ethics, where pearl jam came out the other side as successful and complacent about their standards... Or maybe it was just ed who did, but i got a satisfying feeling from watching this set of shows that I'd been looking for in modern day pj, and have been missing. Not sure how else to explain it, and I'm not looking to argue about pearl jam with anyone, just trying to express my thoughts on what makes this such a cool series for me.

malice wrote:What strat said is about the same reaction i had, all this was happening at the same time, and i think there actually was a general sense of excitement as the 90s unfolded. I was in my twenties through most of that time, and throughout i felt like - finally there's something worthwhile going on with my generation, something that felt real to me in a way other cultural events didn't, i guess because it didn't have any lasting effect on me? But this stuff, musically and culturally did, and influenced and continues to influence my perspective on the culture. I guess it can be depressing to look back on it compared to now, but i think this is true for all (or most?) people. We have a romantic bent to our past, we have a cynical view of our present. So whatever, i guess that plays a large part in what i liked about this show, it gives some weight to the truth of those years and how important they turned out to be.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.