Red Mosquito

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote:No way am I gonna try to defend QT, because he's obviously a cock.

....But it seems Cliff – and the incident on set – is not pure fantasy after all. Known as “the toughest man alive”, real life Hollywood hard man, two-time national judo champion and master of grappling Gene LeBell worked with Lee as a stuntman on The Green Hornet.
“That’s when I first met Bruce Lee,” LeBell recalls in an undated interview on YouTube. “He is a world class martial artist, and a wonderful guy. And the fellah that ran the stunts on it told me, ‘Hey, the guy that drives the car [Lee’s character, Kato] wants to do all the fights and the other actor isn’t athletic and he doesn’t wanna do it, so this Chinese guy wants to do it. So we want someone that knows martial arts and can take falls for him’.”

The co-author of LeBell’s autobiography, The Godfather of Grappling, tells the story a bit differently. Bob Calhoun caught up with LeBell – now 87 years old – again to discuss the Tarantino scene in an article published last week for online magazine Ozy.
Calhoun writes that LeBell was brought in by the show’s stunt coordinator to deal with Lee, who was “kicking the s*** out of the stuntman” because they couldn’t convince him that he could go easy and it would still look good on film.
LeBell told Calhoun he was told by stunt coordinator Bennie Dobbins to put Lee “in a headlock or something” – so he grabbed Lee when he got to set.

“He started making all those noises that he became famous for,” LeBell told Calhoun. “But he didn’t try to counter me, so I think he was more surprised than anything else.”
LeBell said he put Lee on his back in a fireman’s carry and ran around the set, with Lee supposedly shouting “put me down or I’ll kill you!”.
“I can’t put you down or you’ll kill me,” LeBell said was his response, before he finally gave in, adding “Hey, Bruce, don’t kill me. Just kidding champ.”

Instead of being angry, Lee realised his jeet kune do style of martial arts – which, true to his idiom “be water”, took elements of multiple different styles to create something more effective – was lacking grappling.
“I ended up working for The Green Hornet, doing a lot of the shows, and I got close to Bruce Lee and he came down to my school and worked out for over a year privately,” LeBell said in the previous interview.
“And I went and worked out with him at his school. I taught him judo and wrestling and stuff like that and some finishing holds which he later worked into some movies, and he showed me most of the kicks and striking which even today I use in the movies. A wonderful, wonderful man and a great martial artist.”

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

bada wrote:Oh is he cancelled or something? I can't keep up. It's a good talk about martial arts but fair enough.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote:I also hate Joe Rogan

bada wrote:I don't think I hate anybody. Except Channing Tatum. Fuck that guy....and anyone who ever played for the Cowboys....and their family members.