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Re: Vault #9: Seattle 12-8-1993

Posted: Tue December 17, 2019 10:11 pm
by B
They should stop putting out Vault releases. This just served to remind me that they used to be so much better than they currently are.

Re: Vault #9: Seattle 12-8-1993

Posted: Tue December 17, 2019 11:13 pm
by Strat
B wrote:They should stop putting out Vault releases. This just served to remind me that they used to be so much better than they currently are.
Actually this release reminds me that it is quite easy to romanticize this period of pearl jam.

Re: Vault #9: Seattle 12-8-1993

Posted: Tue December 17, 2019 11:14 pm
by Birds in Hell
Strat wrote:
B wrote:They should stop putting out Vault releases. This just served to remind me that they used to be so much better than they currently are.
Actually this release reminds me that it is quite easy to romanticize this period of pearl jam.
It certainly had this effect on me.

Re: Vault #9: Seattle 12-8-1993

Posted: Tue December 17, 2019 11:18 pm
by bodysnatcher
Strat wrote:
B wrote:They should stop putting out Vault releases. This just served to remind me that they used to be so much better than they currently are.
Actually this release reminds me that it is quite easy to romanticize this period of pearl jam.
very true.

i never really got into the 93 shows. 94 was a different beast altogether.

Re: Vault #9: Seattle 12-8-1993

Posted: Tue December 17, 2019 11:46 pm
by wease
bodysnatcher wrote:
Strat wrote:
B wrote:They should stop putting out Vault releases. This just served to remind me that they used to be so much better than they currently are.
Actually this release reminds me that it is quite easy to romanticize this period of pearl jam.
very true.

i never really got into the 93 shows. 94 was a different beast altogether.
I want a set of all the 94 shows. That's my grail that will never happen.

Re: Vault #9: Seattle 12-8-1993

Posted: Wed December 18, 2019 2:04 am
by B
I don't know how '93 measures up to '94, but I enjoyed this much more than any shows I purchased from the past decade.

Re: Vault #9: Seattle 12-8-1993

Posted: Fri December 20, 2019 3:45 am
by Kevin Davis
A '96 or March '98 show is really the only Pearl Jam release I can see getting excited about at this point. There's enough Abbruzzese-era stuff already out there, officially or in high-quality bootleg form, to satisfy my craving for it, and certainly enough Cameron-era stuff. Honestly I feel like I've kind of struggled to engage with the Vault project in general, even though there have absolutely been some excellent releases. I think I just always expected some grand revelation from high-quality versions of these old shows, but I've also gotten so saturated on live Pearl Jam over the years that it's probably impossible for any show not to sound like just another show. What am I going to hear in one more version of "Corduroy" or "Given to Fly" or "Do the Evolution" that I haven't heard somewhere in the first 100-200 versions?

I think the answer is either going to be "Jack Irons's drums" or "probably nothing."

Re: Vault #9: Seattle 12-8-1993

Posted: Fri December 20, 2019 3:47 am
by Higgs
Shit KD - don't take that sort of post to The Pit. You'll get yourself lynched.

Re: Vault #9: Seattle 12-8-1993

Posted: Fri December 20, 2019 3:56 am
by 96583UP
finally having a chance to listen to this and liking it so far

Dave A was such an integral part of their sound

it makes me feel safe to hear him behind the kit

Re: Vault #9: Seattle 12-8-1993

Posted: Fri December 20, 2019 3:58 am
by Kevin Davis
Higgs wrote:Shit KD - don't take that sort of post to The Pit. You'll get yourself lynched.
Ah, they wouldn't let me past the gatekeeper, my 10C credentials are about fifteen years expired.

Nothing specifically against the Vault shows, I certainly don't mean to suggest that I haven't enjoyed them (for the most part) or been happy to see them released. But, I certainly would not have predicted even 5 years ago that the experience of getting, say, two professionally recorded and mixed '98 shows would have felt so...business as usual. Probably just an indication of how my relationship with the band has changed.

Re: Vault #9: Seattle 12-8-1993

Posted: Fri December 20, 2019 5:18 am
by 96583UP
that mamasan trilogy eh - really turned it up there. nice intro to once. nice footsteps.

tremor christ is a mess and it's still fine - would take it that way over 80% of the rest of the catalogue

i've got a feelin' rocks

this is a solid rodlease

Re: Vault #9: Seattle 12-8-1993

Posted: Fri December 20, 2019 5:19 am
by 96583UP
to be clear, phish stole their sound from the back half of this version of i've got a feelin'

Re: Vault #9: Seattle 12-8-1993

Posted: Fri December 20, 2019 5:22 am
by 96583UP
pro-tip: don't listen to your vault releases on early weekdays during the workweek

instead listen to them on nights before lengthy vacations, with lots of alcohol, on real speakers

Re: Vault #9: Seattle 12-8-1993

Posted: Fri December 20, 2019 5:24 am
by 96583UP
wow into RVM

you kids just don't know what's good for you

Re: Vault #9: Seattle 12-8-1993

Posted: Fri December 20, 2019 5:35 am
by 96583UP
some hilarious (and satisfying) fills from Dave A in RITFW

Re: Vault #9: Seattle 12-8-1993

Posted: Fri December 20, 2019 5:48 am
by 96583UP
Birds in Hell wrote:This show honestly made me positively re-evaluate modern Pearl Jam a little bit.
the rest of the band are clearly better musicians now. Ed is the only one who got worse at his instrument (voice fell apart).

This is why the Temple of the Dog reunion was so great. It paired mature PJ backing with legendary spirit animal (that could still sing).

and what could have been if they did another album ...

RIP CC

Re: Vault #9: Seattle 12-8-1993

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 2:59 pm
by Strat
96583UP wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:This show honestly made me positively re-evaluate modern Pearl Jam a little bit.
the rest of the band are clearly better musicians now. Ed is the only one who got worse at his instrument (voice fell apart).

This is why the Temple of the Dog reunion was so great. It paired mature PJ backing with legendary spirit animal (that could still sing).

and what could have been if they did another album ...

RIP CC
Listening to these older shows with more mature ears - it’s amazing Ed didn’t lose his voice much sooner. Geezes he could fucking wail.

Re: Vault #9: Seattle 12-8-1993

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 3:22 pm
by VinylGuy
yeah, he really pushed it. But its worse on 1995 i think.

Re: Vault #9: Seattle 12-8-1993

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 3:57 pm
by B
10C has told UPS that they intend to ship my vinyl.

Re: Vault #9: Seattle 12-8-1993

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 4:02 pm
by VinylGuy
B wrote:10C has told UPS that they intend to ship my vinyl.
They are really trying.