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Re: Louis C.K.

Posted: Wed April 08, 2020 8:58 pm
by tree_
bodysnatcher wrote:Glad I’m not a woman and required to have sex with anyone who takes me to a movie
I didn't mean that. I meant for it not to be a sex crime, the woman would have to agree to sex first, obviously.

Re: Louis C.K.

Posted: Wed April 08, 2020 9:04 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: Louis C.K.

Posted: Wed April 08, 2020 9:10 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: Louis C.K.

Posted: Wed April 08, 2020 9:13 pm
by The Argonaut
tree be straight trippin

Re: Louis C.K.

Posted: Wed April 08, 2020 9:25 pm
by Simple Torture
tree_ wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:And you all seemed to skip over the bit where tree_ compared these women to dogs and cats.
No.. I just mentioned that if it were a crime to masturbate in front of a CONSENTING adult, by that logic, in front of a non-consenting animal should be on par with f***ing said animal. Just say no, or if you change your mind, look away, walk away, leave.
I honestly can't tell if I'm more disturbed by my reading of it or your explanation.

Re: Louis C.K.

Posted: Wed April 08, 2020 9:43 pm
by Simple Torture
If I knew that this day would lead to having to explain to another adult the difference in sexual mores when it comes to consent between people vs. between people and animals, there is absolutely no way I would've gotten out of bed.

Re: Louis C.K.

Posted: Wed April 08, 2020 9:50 pm
by tree_
I'm exaggerating. Again, obviously.

You people.

Just saying choosing to be in the same room as somebody masturbating is not a crime. However what is a crime is forcing sex upon somebody including animals

Re: Louis C.K.

Posted: Wed April 08, 2020 9:50 pm
by B
I just want to say, that I put my dog out of the room if I plan on masturbating.

Re: Louis C.K.

Posted: Wed April 08, 2020 9:52 pm
by Simple Torture
B wrote:I just want to say, that I put my dog out of the room if I plan on masturbating.
You don't ask him if he wants to stick around? You selfish prick.

Re: Louis C.K.

Posted: Wed April 08, 2020 9:56 pm
by tree_
Also what is interesting is that forcing someone to watch you masturbate is a crime however not in front of animals

Re: Louis C.K.

Posted: Wed April 08, 2020 10:14 pm
by B
It's also weird that we can cage, leash, neuter, breed, slaughter, and eat animals, all without their consent. It's almost like there are different rules for people.

Re: Louis C.K.

Posted: Wed April 08, 2020 10:18 pm
by bodysnatcher
Nvm

Re: Louis C.K.

Posted: Wed April 08, 2020 10:19 pm
by Sgt. Crackpot
I'm still stuck on the notion that tree believes petty theft is worse than a sexual assault crime.

Re: Louis C.K.

Posted: Wed April 08, 2020 11:05 pm
by wease
Simple Torture wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:And you all seemed to skip over the bit where tree_ compared these women to dogs and cats.
No.. I just mentioned that if it were a crime to masturbate in front of a CONSENTING adult, by that logic, in front of a non-consenting animal should be on par with f***ing said animal. Just say no, or if you change your mind, look away, walk away, leave.
I honestly can't tell if I'm more disturbed by my reading of it or your explanation.
Yeah. WTF do animals have to do with women consenting to have sex? Why bring animals into this argument at all.

Re: Louis C.K.

Posted: Wed April 08, 2020 11:08 pm
by wease
wease wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:And you all seemed to skip over the bit where tree_ compared these women to dogs and cats.
No.. I just mentioned that if it were a crime to masturbate in front of a CONSENTING adult, by that logic, in front of a non-consenting animal should be on par with f***ing said animal. Just say no, or if you change your mind, look away, walk away, leave.
I honestly can't tell if I'm more disturbed by my reading of it or your explanation.
Yeah. WTF do animals have to do with women consenting to have sex? Why bring animals into this argument at all.
Waitaminute!!

tree_
a) is into sex with animals
b) is racist
c) is a fink at work who thinks rules apply to everyone but him
d) says stupid shit influenced by backwards logic that only he understands
e) thinks cunnilingus is gross

tree_ is Joe Exotic.

Re: Louis C.K.

Posted: Thu April 09, 2020 12:37 am
by B
wease wrote:
wease wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:And you all seemed to skip over the bit where tree_ compared these women to dogs and cats.
No.. I just mentioned that if it were a crime to masturbate in front of a CONSENTING adult, by that logic, in front of a non-consenting animal should be on par with f***ing said animal. Just say no, or if you change your mind, look away, walk away, leave.
I honestly can't tell if I'm more disturbed by my reading of it or your explanation.
Yeah. WTF do animals have to do with women consenting to have sex? Why bring animals into this argument at all.
Waitaminute!!

tree_
a) is into sex with animals
b) is racist
c) is a fink at work who thinks rules apply to everyone but him
d) says stupid shit influenced by backwards logic that only he understands
e) thinks cunnilingus is gross

tree_ is Joe Exotic.
To be fair, tree_ has, thus far, only defended questionable sexual practices and not actually testified to his own interests.

Re: Louis C.K.

Posted: Thu April 09, 2020 12:46 am
by tree_
Thanks B

Re: Louis C.K.

Posted: Thu April 09, 2020 12:46 am
by epilogue
BAN B!!!!!

Re: Louis C.K.

Posted: Thu April 09, 2020 12:48 am
by B
:lol:

Re: Louis C.K.

Posted: Thu April 09, 2020 12:59 am
by Superblood Wolfmoon
I can certainly see the power dynamics at play in the Louis situation and understand that it’s not as black-and-white as saying “they could have just left.” But to use the term sexual assault for what he did is ludicrous. It’s not even like he manipulated anyone by saying something like “if you watch me jerk off I’ll help your career out” or “if you don’t stay and watch there will be consequences for you.”

I’m reading Ronan Farrow’s book about Harvey Weinstein. That is a sexual predator who wielded his power like a maniac to rape women and get away with it. I’m not even sure Louis understood the situation on that level, and it seems like once he did he felt bad about it.