Red Mosquito

I don't hear this one as especially punk influenced, at least not exclusively. I get much more of late 70s/early 80s hard rock thing - particularly that blistering solo.* This simply has to be the famed Motörhead-esque song.

Whoever said "Lightning Bolt" sounds like a Dio album title is right...and isn't that fucking awesome? I love it. These guys are doing a lot to make me happy lately.

(* yes, I realise that music was a huge influence over what developed into 80s punk.)

I still say..that with a title like Lightning Bolt, you are better off just putting the album out sans title and with the artwork, let the fandom call it what it will. That way calling it Lightning Bolt is our fault!

theplatypus wrote:I know this is very cynical of me, but I can't help but think that some people are kind of forcing themselves to like this song. I think if you presented this same song with a different singer (say a Bob Mould or a Greg? Graffin) to a bunch of Pearl Jam fans, most of them would go "meh."

Not only that, but if everything about this song remained unchanged, including the music, Eddie's voice, etc., and you were to hear this song for the first time and the band Pearl Jam never existed, people would think "meh."

theplatypus wrote:I know this is very cynical of me, but I can't help but think that some people are kind of forcing themselves to like this song. I think if you presented this same song with a different singer (say a Bob Mould or a Greg? Graffin) to a bunch of Pearl Jam fans, most of them would go "meh."

Couldn't the same thing be said about any song though? If the singers you mentioned sang for instance, Stairway To Heaven instead of Plant....or if one of the guitar players from Nickleback were playing on it instead of Page...

Think about it.

gems and rhinestones wrote:

theplatypus wrote:I know this is very cynical of me, but I can't help but think that some people are kind of forcing themselves to like this song. I think if you presented this same song with a different singer (say a Bob Mould or a Greg? Graffin) to a bunch of Pearl Jam fans, most of them would go "meh."

Couldn't the same thing be said about any song though? If the singers you mentioned sang for instance, Stairway To Heaven instead of Plant....or if one of the guitar players from Nickleback were playing on it instead of Page...

Think about it.

I'm sorry, I don't follow.

theplatypus wrote:

gems and rhinestones wrote:

theplatypus wrote:I know this is very cynical of me, but I can't help but think that some people are kind of forcing themselves to like this song. I think if you presented this same song with a different singer (say a Bob Mould or a Greg? Graffin) to a bunch of Pearl Jam fans, most of them would go "meh."

Couldn't the same thing be said about any song though? If the singers you mentioned sang for instance, Stairway To Heaven instead of Plant....or if one of the guitar players from Nickleback were playing on it instead of Page...

Think about it.

I'm sorry, I don't follow.

Did you think about it, though?

Chris_H_2 wrote:

theplatypus wrote:I know this is very cynical of me, but I can't help but think that some people are kind of forcing themselves to like this song. I think if you presented this same song with a different singer (say a Bob Mould or a Greg? Graffin) to a bunch of Pearl Jam fans, most of them would go "meh."

Not only that, but if everything about this song remained unchanged, including the music, Eddie's voice, etc., and you were to hear this song for the first time and the band Pearl Jam never existed, people would think "meh."

You could say that about a majority of songs on all of their albums.

Self wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

gems and rhinestones wrote:

theplatypus wrote:I know this is very cynical of me, but I can't help but think that some people are kind of forcing themselves to like this song. I think if you presented this same song with a different singer (say a Bob Mould or a Greg? Graffin) to a bunch of Pearl Jam fans, most of them would go "meh."

Couldn't the same thing be said about any song though? If the singers you mentioned sang for instance, Stairway To Heaven instead of Plant....or if one of the guitar players from Nickleback were playing on it instead of Page...

Think about it.

I'm sorry, I don't follow.

Did you think about it, though?

I don't think I follow it myself.

Thejambi wrote:

Chris_H_2 wrote:

theplatypus wrote:I know this is very cynical of me, but I can't help but think that some people are kind of forcing themselves to like this song. I think if you presented this same song with a different singer (say a Bob Mould or a Greg? Graffin) to a bunch of Pearl Jam fans, most of them would go "meh."

Not only that, but if everything about this song remained unchanged, including the music, Eddie's voice, etc., and you were to hear this song for the first time and the band Pearl Jam never existed, people would think "meh."

You could say that about a majority of songs on all of their albums.

That's true -- and that's a reflection of how mediocre a lot of them are and yet people think they're deserving of songs of the year.

No one's calling this the second coming ... it's just a solid song.

This song is like the second coming!!!

Ole was song of the year for 2011.


I predict Alford Pleas will take the gold for 2013.

Chris_H_2 wrote:

Thejambi wrote:

Chris_H_2 wrote:

theplatypus wrote:I know this is very cynical of me, but I can't help but think that some people are kind of forcing themselves to like this song. I think if you presented this same song with a different singer (say a Bob Mould or a Greg? Graffin) to a bunch of Pearl Jam fans, most of them would go "meh."

Not only that, but if everything about this song remained unchanged, including the music, Eddie's voice, etc., and you were to hear this song for the first time and the band Pearl Jam never existed, people would think "meh."

You could say that about a majority of songs on all of their albums.

That's true -- and that's a reflection of how mediocre a lot of them are and yet people think they're deserving of songs of the year.

Totally agreed. AND if you just left the song as is, but humans didn't have ears and alligators made music, people would scrawl something on their hand like Helen Keller and then the alligators would eat them.

theplatypus wrote:

gems and rhinestones wrote:

theplatypus wrote:I know this is very cynical of me, but I can't help but think that some people are kind of forcing themselves to like this song. I think if you presented this same song with a different singer (say a Bob Mould or a Greg? Graffin) to a bunch of Pearl Jam fans, most of them would go "meh."

Couldn't the same thing be said about any song though? If the singers you mentioned sang for instance, Stairway To Heaven instead of Plant....or if one of the guitar players from Nickleback were playing on it instead of Page...

Think about it.

I'm sorry, I don't follow.

I think it just comes down to "I like to hear these guys play, and Eddie Vedder sing."

Chris_H_2 wrote:

Thejambi wrote:

Chris_H_2 wrote:

theplatypus wrote:I know this is very cynical of me, but I can't help but think that some people are kind of forcing themselves to like this song. I think if you presented this same song with a different singer (say a Bob Mould or a Greg? Graffin) to a bunch of Pearl Jam fans, most of them would go "meh."

Not only that, but if everything about this song remained unchanged, including the music, Eddie's voice, etc., and you were to hear this song for the first time and the band Pearl Jam never existed, people would think "meh."

You could say that about a majority of songs on all of their albums.

That's true -- and that's a reflection of how mediocre a lot of them are and yet people think they're deserving of songs of the year.

Every song isn't meant to be a tour de force or a chart topper. Every song doesn't need to impact you the same way as another or carry the same weight.
Sometimes the relationship you have with a band and its catalog creates the appreciation for a song. In 98 DTE probably wouldn't have brought me in to PJ if I hadn't already been a fan and its one of my favorites.

B wrote:No one's calling this the second coming ... it's just a solid song.

Yeah. This will be much better live than Got Some, Comatose, or Save You. But hardly worthy of the 1994-2000 catalog.

Rangi Guy wrote:This song is like the second coming!!!

That is top notch posting!

broken iris wrote:

B wrote:No one's calling this the second coming ... it's just a solid song.

Yeah. This will be much better live than Got Some, Comatose, or Save You. But hardly worthy of the 1994-2000 catalog.

I can't see this being better than Save You live but we will see. I wish the lighter part of MYM were a little more interesting (think poor girl) or a little darker.

broken iris wrote:

B wrote:No one's calling this the second coming ... it's just a solid song.

Yeah. This will be much better live than Got Some, Comatose, or Save You. But hardly worthy of the 1994-2000 catalog.

Haha what The fuck. The song has been out for 6 hours. C'mon

broken iris wrote:

B wrote:No one's calling this the second coming ... it's just a solid song.

Yeah. This will be much better live than Got Some, Comatose, or Save You. But hardly worthy of the 1994-2000 catalog.

I really like comatose live, at least live in person, ed may not sound great on a boot, but it works really well live