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Re: Welcome to the touring band Josh Klinghoffer
Posted: Sun September 08, 2024 1:25 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Welcome to the touring band Josh Klinghoffer
Posted: Sun September 08, 2024 6:50 pm
by Happy Trees
I fully expect that Klinghoffer will soon be leaving Pearl Jam to join up with Killdozer.
Re: Welcome to the touring band Josh Klinghoffer
Posted: Sun September 08, 2024 6:53 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Welcome to the touring band Josh Klinghoffer
Posted: Mon September 09, 2024 10:13 am
by spike
tragabigzanda wrote:spike wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:More likely they consider him a friend, and like good friends, wouldn’t throw him to the wolves for something obviously negligent, but not intentional.
Josh definitely should face the full extent of the law for this. But it’s not like he’s Harvey Weinstein here. I’d think even less of the band if they canned him over this.
did you make this post while driving?
I have a whole series of negative PJ takes dragged on my phone and I just tell Siri when to post one
see you in the philly night one thread
Re: Welcome to the touring band Josh Klinghoffer
Posted: Tue September 10, 2024 8:52 am
by Matters
B wrote:If he hasn't been criminally charged yet, what are the chances he would be? He's facing a civil suit. Don't those usually come after a criminal trial has run its course?
Criminal charges usually come before civil.
From a band that has pushed morality so hard for so many years, it would be nice to get an official statement.
Re: Welcome to the touring band Josh Klinghoffer
Posted: Sat September 21, 2024 12:09 am
by oasisfan35
Matters wrote:B wrote:If he hasn't been criminally charged yet, what are the chances he would be? He's facing a civil suit. Don't those usually come after a criminal trial has run its course?
Criminal charges usually come before civil.
From a
band that has pushed morality so hard for so many years, it would be nice to get an official statement.
And we get radio silence because that
band died years ago.
Re: Welcome to the touring band Josh Klinghoffer
Posted: Sat September 21, 2024 12:57 am
by Happy Trees
oasisfan35 wrote:Matters wrote:B wrote:If he hasn't been criminally charged yet, what are the chances he would be? He's facing a civil suit. Don't those usually come after a criminal trial has run its course?
Criminal charges usually come before civil.
From a
band that has pushed morality so hard for so many years, it would be nice to get an official statement.
And we get radio silence because that
band died years ago.
Perhaps they will address it on Sunday Morning.
As they sip Cafe Vienna International Coffee with Jane Pauley and fuel up their jet.
And discuss how they come come up with a different setlist every night for tours they didn't rehearse for.
Re: Welcome to the touring band Josh Klinghoffer
Posted: Sat September 21, 2024 1:54 am
by epilogue
Feels like they already released a statement 02.
"There's no wrong or right, but I'm sure there's good a bad"
Re: Welcome to the touring band Josh Klinghoffer
Posted: Sat September 21, 2024 1:57 am
by mikejasond
Im also confused and surprised that they haven't reacted to this. I didn't know about it until recently. He actually killed somebody because he was texting while driving? I know Eddie Vedder is not the moral police but as hes somebody who clearly has a big heart and cares about people Im just shocked he can somehow look the other way so easily?
Re: Welcome to the touring band Josh Klinghoffer
Posted: Sat September 21, 2024 1:57 am
by oasisfan35
epilogue wrote:Feels like they already released a statement 02.
"There's no wrong or right, but I'm sure there's good a bad"
Please don't make light of this bump in the road.
Re: Welcome to the touring band Josh Klinghoffer
Posted: Sat September 21, 2024 2:07 am
by Happy Trees
When God kills a pedestrian he opens a window.
Re: Welcome to the touring band Josh Klinghoffer
Posted: Sat September 21, 2024 2:14 am
by dad
Happy Trees wrote:When God kills a pedestrian he opens a window.
Sometimes I like to remember George Burns as god.
Re: Welcome to the touring band Josh Klinghoffer
Posted: Sat September 21, 2024 3:33 am
by epilogue
dad wrote:Happy Trees wrote:When God kills a pedestrian he opens a window.
Sometimes I like to remember George Burns as god.
And the rest of the time?
Re: Welcome to the touring band Josh Klinghoffer
Posted: Wed September 25, 2024 4:51 pm
by Strat
Officially charged with vehicular manslaughter
Re: Welcome to the touring band Josh Klinghoffer
Posted: Wed September 25, 2024 4:51 pm
by Strat
Re: Welcome to the touring band Josh Klinghoffer
Posted: Wed September 25, 2024 4:52 pm
by wease
Interesting.
Re: Welcome to the touring band Josh Klinghoffer
Posted: Wed September 25, 2024 4:52 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
whoa, really?
Re: Welcome to the touring band Josh Klinghoffer
Posted: Wed September 25, 2024 4:55 pm
by blueviper
it's only considered a misdemeanor?
That doesn't seem right.
Re: Welcome to the touring band Josh Klinghoffer
Posted: Wed September 25, 2024 4:55 pm
by Strat
Without gross negligence.
In California, vehicular manslaughter without gross negligence is a misdemeanor that can result in up to one year in county jail and a fine of up to $1,000. This is also known as non-gross or simple negligent vehicular manslaughter.
Vehicular manslaughter without gross negligence is charged when a driver is found to have acted with ordinary negligence, which is defined as failing to act in a way that a reasonable person would in the same situation. For example, a driver who rolls through a stop sign or speeds a few miles over the limit in a residential neighborhood could be charged with ordinary negligence.
Re: Welcome to the touring band Josh Klinghoffer
Posted: Wed September 25, 2024 5:01 pm
by Birds in Hell
Strat wrote:In California, vehicular manslaughter without gross negligence is a misdemeanor that can result in up to one year in county jail and a fine of up to $1,000. This is also known as non-gross or simple negligent vehicular manslaughter.
That’s absolutely mad.
In contrast, in my state:
“It is an offence to drive a vehicle in a culpably negligent manner, recklessly, or at a speed or in a manner dangerous to any person, if that conduct causes the death of another [Criminal Law Consolidation Act 1935 (SA) s 19A].
The maximum penalty for a first offence which is a basic offence is imprisonment for fifteen years and mandatory licence disqualification for at least ten years.”