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Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 12:41 am
by stip
why am I just being told about this now?

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 12:43 am
by Ms Harmless
because you never asked me before

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 12:58 am
by stip
I guess that's fair.

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 2:36 am
by Fattie_Vedder
Hearing that piano for the first time was like suddenly having the ability to hear normally with assisted hearing aids. There are so many layers of instruments buried in the tracks!! Have you heard the keys at the end of Scared of Fear?!?

That piano is completely inaudible in both the Spotify and Atmos version of Apple. But I hear it when I turn Atmos off in Apple Music. It’s so faint, and I don’t think I would have noticed it if it weren’t for these isolated tracks, but now I can hear it every time.

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 2:44 am
by Ms Harmless
I clearly have the best ears

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 2:51 am
by Fattie_Vedder
Ms Harmless wrote:I clearly have the best ears
Cannot confirm nor deny, but I can attest for my own highly compromised hearing.

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 2:56 am
by RockPusher
I love all the breakdowns of songs we are getting, I assume as a result of the multiple channels folks can isolate thanks to the Dolby Atmos mix.

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 7:51 am
by Ms Harmless
does this song distort at the end of the intro for anyone else?

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 8:01 am
by Release_Me
Ms Harmless wrote:does this song distort at the end of the intro for anyone else?
Apparently, that's intentional. Someone raised it earlier and it was suggested that that fuzzy sound is an effect.

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 3:29 pm
by hlniv
:shock:


Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Sat May 04, 2024 11:36 pm
by DeeDee


Might be the best song of the record, and that's no small feat. Beautiful bassline, fun to learn and play.

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Sun May 05, 2024 3:32 pm
by oneway23
Did not have Ed playing the Edge-like intro on my bingo card. Couldn't believe it when I saw the live clip.

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Sun May 05, 2024 4:55 pm
by Tj
oneway23 wrote:Did not have Ed playing the Edge-like intro on my bingo card. Couldn't believe it when I saw the live clip.
I loved that what a surprise. I can't figure out why, but it elevated a song that was already about as high as a song can go.

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Sun May 05, 2024 5:12 pm
by oneway23
Tj wrote:
oneway23 wrote:Did not have Ed playing the Edge-like intro on my bingo card. Couldn't believe it when I saw the live clip.
I loved that what a surprise. I can't figure out why, but it elevated a song that was already about as high as a song can go.
Right there with you, Tj. Had a similar reaction.

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Sun May 05, 2024 6:38 pm
by Tj
Now that I see and hear it makes sense. I do think it is also him playing it on the album. There is a ragged vibe to it that I don't think Stone or Mike would have had.

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Sun May 05, 2024 7:33 pm
by Ms Harmless
Tj wrote:Now that I see and hear it makes sense. I do think it is also him playing it on the album. There is a ragged vibe to it that I don't think Stone or Mike would have had.
yep, I think Ed's way of playing guitar is very percussive; isn't he also a drummer?

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Sun May 05, 2024 8:01 pm
by RockPusher
Ms Harmless wrote:
Tj wrote:Now that I see and hear it makes sense. I do think it is also him playing it on the album. There is a ragged vibe to it that I don't think Stone or Mike would have had.
yep, I think Ed's way of playing guitar is very percussive; isn't he also a drummer?
I believe that was his role with Hovercraft.

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Sun May 05, 2024 8:10 pm
by Ms Harmless
RockPusher wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
Tj wrote:Now that I see and hear it makes sense. I do think it is also him playing it on the album. There is a ragged vibe to it that I don't think Stone or Mike would have had.
yep, I think Ed's way of playing guitar is very percussive; isn't he also a drummer?
I believe that was his role with Hovercraft.
ah, I've not heard their music; lol hovercraft, what a relic! went on one once

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Sun May 05, 2024 8:36 pm
by Tj
RockPusher wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
Tj wrote:Now that I see and hear it makes sense. I do think it is also him playing it on the album. There is a ragged vibe to it that I don't think Stone or Mike would have had.
yep, I think Ed's way of playing guitar is very percussive; isn't he also a drummer?
I believe that was his role with Hovercraft.
He is under-rated almost criminally as a guitar player. His right hand timing is unique in a good. His ability to use movable chord shapes and also open notes at the same time takes a good ear. His choice of tone however has problems . He really I think enjoys the history and romance of vintage gear. I guess the vintage gear isn't really the problem. He just sounded much better with humbucking pick ups on his 2000 era schecter pts and sg. His 62tele custom with single coils isn't my favorite sound for him , but I guess that guitar inspires him so oh well.

Re: Upper Hand

Posted: Sun May 05, 2024 9:37 pm
by Strat
Tj wrote:
RockPusher wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
Tj wrote:Now that I see and hear it makes sense. I do think it is also him playing it on the album. There is a ragged vibe to it that I don't think Stone or Mike would have had.
yep, I think Ed's way of playing guitar is very percussive; isn't he also a drummer?
I believe that was his role with Hovercraft.
He is under-rated almost criminally as a guitar player. His right hand timing is unique in a good. His ability to use movable chord shapes and also open notes at the same time takes a good ear. His choice of tone however has problems . He really I think enjoys the history and romance of vintage gear. I guess the vintage gear isn't really the problem. He just sounded much better with humbucking pick ups on his 2000 era schecter pts and sg. His 62tele custom with single coils isn't my favorite sound for him , but I guess that guitar inspires him so oh well.
Ed is an awesome guitar playera nd you are right that his right hand is epic. It's all Pete Townsend rushing through him.

I dont love his tone within Pearl Jam but his tone Solo/Earthlings is pretty great. He has all the right gear.

His 2000 setup with the Schecter andd Hi Watt was his best within Pearl Jam. or even 95 when he used some distortion.