Red Mosquito

theplatypus wrote:THIS SONG IS GREAT

I have no idea what the lyrics are about and I don't care. Something about a genius's son, and Beethoven. Whatever.

Definitely the strongest song on the album (by some margin) for me.

Birds in Hell wrote:Unless lyrics are about, I don't know, white supremacy or something, I really can't fathom how they could ruin a song that sounds good to your ear. The actual words themselves are of neglible importance to me, it's the pure sound of the vocal (the musical effect of the choices of vowels, consonants and syllables, the phrasing, etc.) that really matters.

I'm with you on this. When lyrics really bother me they either have to be really really bad or the song itself must not be very good that I'm focusing on the lyrics instead.

I love the lyrics in this song. I'm a volunteer amputee!

This song is awesome.

Vindicator wrote:I love the lyrics in this song. I'm a volunteer amputee!

Huh. I guess I hadn't considered that they might be experiential in nature....but, I imagine that being a volunteer amputee probably does help you to appreciate them.

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:Unless lyrics are about, I don't know, white supremacy or something, I really can't fathom how they could ruin a song that sounds good to your ear. The actual words themselves are of neglible importance to me, it's the pure sound of the vocal (the musical effect of the choices of vowels, consonants and syllables, the phrasing, etc.) that really matters.

I'm with you on this. When lyrics really bother me they either have to be really really bad or the song itself must not be very good that I'm focusing on the lyrics instead.

yeah lyrics are certainly secondary for me to music/melody.

this whole song is awesome. it sounds like ed is more focused on candance and rhythm in the verses. the chorus might be the best part of the album. the bridge was probably a song they never finished.

harmless wrote:Ed said it isn't autobiographical.

When? Where?

Seems very autobiographical to me.

IlluminEddie wrote:

harmless wrote:Ed said it isn't autobiographical.

When? Where?

Seems very autobiographical to me.

check the reviews thread. i remember him saying this to.

Lyrics are NOT secondary. That statement simply bothers me. Lyrics are so important to a good song. One can certainly enjoy music without lyrics and I suppose non-lyrical music can move someone, but I feel one can't have a real connection to a song without lyrics. It's the bridge to understanding a point of view, generally the writer's.

Vindicator wrote:I love the lyrics in this song. I'm a volunteer amputee!

Well, that's a new one.

IlluminEddie wrote:Lyrics are NOT secondary. That statement simply bothers me. Lyrics are so important to a good song. One can certainly enjoy music without lyrics and I suppose non-lyrical music can move someone, but I feel one can't have a real connection to a song without lyrics. It's the bridge to understanding a point of view, generally the writer's.

i dunno what to tell u man, i can sing 'balls in your mouth' all day.

Somebody better dig up Mozart and have him write some lyrics or no one's ever gonna like his shit.

IlluminEddie wrote:

harmless wrote:Ed said it isn't autobiographical.

When? Where?

Seems very autobiographical to me.

I think it was in the Mark Richards interview. He said that it wasn't about himself, because he didn't know his father so has nothing against him.

Guys, if you're going to write a song with lyrics, they're a crucial part of the song and can justifiably be critiqued. If a song fails, the lyrics are just as open to critique as everything else, and lyrics may well be the reason a song ultimately succeeds or fails. The idea that lyrics are an optional extra I find arrogant and naive. Music designed to be instrumental is obviously exempt and shouldn't be brought into the argument.

benton netty wrote:Somebody better dig up Mozart and have him write some lyrics or no one's ever gonna like his shit.

I'll just quote myself:

One can certainly enjoy music without lyrics and I suppose non-lyrical music can move someone, but I feel one can't have a real connection to a song without lyrics.

warehouse wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:Unless lyrics are about, I don't know, white supremacy or something, I really can't fathom how they could ruin a song that sounds good to your ear. The actual words themselves are of neglible importance to me, it's the pure sound of the vocal (the musical effect of the choices of vowels, consonants and syllables, the phrasing, etc.) that really matters.

I'm with you on this. When lyrics really bother me they either have to be really really bad or the song itself must not be very good that I'm focusing on the lyrics instead.

yeah lyrics are certainly secondary for me to music/melody.

this whole song is awesome. it sounds like ed is more focused on candance and rhythm in the verses. the chorus might be the best part of the album. the bridge was probably a song they never finished.

There's some very interesting delivery here, rhythmically and tonally. It's a similar thing displayed on MYM, and I think if they do more "loud" songs, this is the right way to do it with his older voice.

how about: bad music can ruin good lyrics, but bad lyrics cant ruin good music...for me, at least.

IlluminEddie wrote:

benton netty wrote:Somebody better dig up Mozart and have him write some lyrics or no one's ever gonna like his shit.

I'll just quote myself:

One can certainly enjoy music without lyrics and I suppose non-lyrical music can move someone, but I feel one can't have a real connection to a song without lyrics.

This doesn't make sense. You're saying that you can't have a proper connection with any song without lyrics? I dunno man, that's silly. If a song is designed to be instrumental, you can't critique lyrics; it doesn't preclude emotional attachment. But if a song includes lyrics, those lyrics are fair game for critique as much as the guitar work.

warehouse wrote:how about: bad music can ruin good lyrics, but bad lyrics cant ruin good music...for me, at least.

I'd be happy enough to jump on board and ride Supersonic if it weren't for the terrible lyrics, but I don't have that strong a reaction to most songs. These lyrics are just depressingly bad.

warehouse wrote:how about: bad music can ruin good lyrics, but bad lyrics cant ruin good music...for me, at least.

I understand this (pop fans certainly back this), but honestly, I find this very frustrating because it's not how I hear a song. To each his or her own though.

harmless wrote:

warehouse wrote:how about: bad music can ruin good lyrics, but bad lyrics cant ruin good music...for me, at least.

I'd be happy enough to jump on board and ride Supersonic if it weren't for the terrible lyrics, but I don't have that strong a reaction to most songs. These lyrics are just depressingly bad.

i havent even looked at the lyrics to this song to be honest with you. i need to wrap my brain/soul around the entire song before i read the lyrics and try to make sense of them.