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Re: Let's Talk About the 2000 Tour

Posted: Wed November 20, 2013 2:39 am
by red calzolaio
Man, I should listen to the Detroit boot.

My first show ever...probably my favorite.

Re: Let's Talk About the 2000 Tour

Posted: Wed November 20, 2013 3:58 am
by DeLima
matt reeder wrote:NP:
06/26/00 – Alsterdorfer Sporthalle: Hamburg, Germany [132m]
attendance: 7,000
support act: Dismemberment Plan
set: Breakerfall, Corduroy, MFC, Go, Faithfull, Even Flow, Rival, Given To Fly, Elderly Woman, Light Years, Evacuation, Grievance, Present Tense, Daughter/(I Believe In Miracles), Porch, Black, Insignificance, Rearviewmirror
enc 1: Crazy Mary, Soldier of Love, Do The Evolution, Once, Smile, Better Man, Baba O’Riley
enc 2: Yellow Ledbetter

This show is the tits. My favorite from Europe, and that's saying something.
i saw 13 shows in 2000, 8 of them in europe. of the europe shows i saw, this one continues to stand out all those years later:

06/04/00 – Manchester Evening News Arena: Manchester, England [132m]
set: Of The Girl, Breakerfall, Grievance, Corduroy, Light Years, Go, Given To Fly, Evacuation, Even Flow, Daughter, Animal, Wishlist, Nothingman, Better Man, Insignificance, Rearviewmirror
enc 1: Last Exit, Once, Black, Timeless Melody, State of Love And Trust, Fuckin’ Up
enc 2: Leatherman, Footsteps, Do The Evolution, Garden, Yellow Ledbetter

but fuck man, this whole tour - really - was so good. they ended a lot of main sets with insignificance=>rvm, and it was blistering every time.

Re: Let's Talk About the 2000 Tour

Posted: Wed November 20, 2013 6:20 pm
by chinofstone
If I could follow the band for one tour: Europe 2000

Re: Let's Talk About the 2000 Tour

Posted: Wed November 20, 2013 6:43 pm
by DeLima
chinofstone wrote:If I could follow the band for one tour: Europe 2000
Allow me to wax nostalgic, then, for a moment.

That tour I saw Wembley 1 and 2, Glasgow, Manchester, Cardiff, Paris, Pinkpop, and Verona. I was very young, or at least it feels that way now. No, I really was just a kid.

The shows were awesome. I remember hearing stuff like Small Town and Off He Goes for the first time live at Wembley 2 and being blown away. Wembley 2 was my 3rd show ever (first was Toronto '98), and I remember the boom-boom main set ending of SOLAT =>Immortality => RVM very clearly. I was near the front of the pit and got into the kind of zone during those songs that it's just hard to reach once you pass your mid-twenties.

I remember Wembley 2 closed with Alive and I thought it was the tits. There was something special about a show closing with Alive for me at that point. I remember hearing Present Tense and Once in Glasgow for the first time live and loving it. I passed Eddie a sign requesting Homeless by Bad Radio at that show and he took it, grinned and laughed. That show a crowdsurfer's foot bashed into my chest and the footprint stayed on that t-shirt, even after countless washings, for years afterwards.

I remember Nothingman, Garden and Footsteps in Manchester. Garden in particular had just come back 2 shows prior in Dublin after being dropped since 95, so I couldn't believe how lucky I was to hear it.

I could keep going, but you guys get the idea. What a trip.

Re: Let's Talk About the 2000 Tour

Posted: Wed November 20, 2013 6:53 pm
by chinofstone
I was 21 years old. Just graduated college and got a job in April.
Should have taken the summer off and gone to Europe, followed the band.

Re: Let's Talk About the 2000 Tour

Posted: Wed November 20, 2013 6:57 pm
by DeLima
the shows were definitely darker in tone than the 98 shows were. Binaural is such a darker album than Yield.

Re: Let's Talk About the 2000 Tour

Posted: Wed November 20, 2013 7:06 pm
by chinofstone
Binaural songs were played at their best. It seems like an obvious statement, but post-2000, most of the Binaural performances never match that tour.

other tour highlights:
Corduroy
Not For You
Immortality (despite some of Ed's early flubs)
Better Man (with real SIFL tags)
Hail, Hail
Habit
Smile
Present Tense
In My Tree
Daughter (Wrong Child tag. Love it)
RVM
In Hiding

Re: Let's Talk About the 2000 Tour

Posted: Wed November 20, 2013 7:36 pm
by DeLima
RVM was fuckin nuts on that tour

Re: Let's Talk About the 2000 Tour

Posted: Wed November 20, 2013 7:44 pm
by Farmer John
This is one of my favourite Daughter tags (Toronto 2000). I love Stone's guitar right after the "shades go down" part.


Re: Let's Talk About the 2000 Tour

Posted: Wed November 20, 2013 7:53 pm
by Birds in Hell
Toronto is one of the rarely-mentioned gems from the 2000 tour, I love that version of Daughter too.

Re: Let's Talk About the 2000 Tour

Posted: Wed November 20, 2013 7:56 pm
by Farmer John
Birds in Hell wrote:Toronto is one of the rarely-mentioned gems from the 2000 tour, I love that version of Daughter too.
It seems to get overshadowed by Detroit two nights later. I was at both shows, and I'd rank Toronto over Detroit. Although both were stellar.

Re: Let's Talk About the 2000 Tour

Posted: Wed November 20, 2013 8:21 pm
by ridleybradout
Toronto ended up having the most number of tracks on my 'Live On 3 Legs 2000' compilation (Dissident, Sleight Of Hand, Immortality, Mankind, Baba O'Riley, Indifference) but the whole show is stellar from start to finish (great setlist too).

The mediafire links for the comp at the above link still seem to be active for anyone interested who didn't get it first time around :thumbsup:

Re: Let's Talk About the 2000 Tour

Posted: Wed November 20, 2013 9:50 pm
by DeLima
I agree that Toronto was just as good as Detroit. Totally different shows.

Rosemont 2000

Posted: Tue February 25, 2014 4:57 am
by LuNY
The version of Release from this show is very powerful. Great crowd, amazing show. Seger it.


Re: Rosemont 2000

Posted: Tue February 25, 2014 5:00 am
by Norah

Re: Let's Talk About the 2000 Tour

Posted: Wed February 26, 2014 3:31 am
by 96583UP
DeLima wrote:the shows were definitely darker in tone than the 98 shows were. Binaural is such a darker album than Yield.
i dunno man, I saw pilate on that tour and was embarassed to be in the arena. my friend turned to me and was like "what was that" - as in "you're gay"

and then we kissed

which was pretty excellent

BUT,
at the same time, they were periodically doing the pre-habit improv in 2000, which is the awesomest. becuase it it awesome, and then habit is played, which is awesome.

and then they stopped doing that now because they are stupid

Re: Let's Talk About the 2000 Tour

Posted: Wed February 26, 2014 3:55 am
by 96583UP
but yes pilate aside, it was dark. at least the shows i went to

and when ed came out with the beard at Virgnia Beach I was like "whoa"

now he's always Mr Beard

And I remember some cute chick that was like with the band's crew with this camo/biker belt filming and taking pictures.

they ended up using some of that film in the PJ20 bonus DVD when they showed 'it's ok'

i remember they were pretty guarded that show it seemed until rearviewmirror when it was time to dump some baggage...

Re: Let's Talk About the 2000 Tour

Posted: Wed February 26, 2014 1:12 pm
by warehouse
chinofstone wrote:If I could follow the band for one tour: Europe 2000
didnt the cancel the end of the tour?

Re: Let's Talk About the 2000 Tour

Posted: Wed February 26, 2014 3:20 pm
by chinofstone
warehouse wrote:
chinofstone wrote:If I could follow the band for one tour: Europe 2000
didnt the cancel the end of the tour?
At the very end, yes. But I think they played about 25 shows.
I listened to Slovenia the other day. :thumbsup:
Nice mix of No Code-Yield-Binaural.

Re: Let's Talk About the 2000 Tour

Posted: Wed February 26, 2014 6:39 pm
by red calzolaio
the last tour that Sleight of Hand sounded like the masterpiece it is.