All-Time Franchise Baseball Tournament: RED SOX WIN IT ALL!

[Lament]

If we do divisions, we can tailor the schedule to them. We don't necessarily have to have everyone play everyone else twice.

[Norah]

Still, fuck that.

[@SkitchP]

If we do divisions, we can tailor the schedule to them. We don't necessarily have to have everyone play everyone else twice.

You're doing all the real work here. I trust whatever you choose.

[Lament]

I'm good with just the single division and the balanced schedule. I think if a natural set of divisions presented themselves (like if we had an equal number of AL and NL teams) then maybe I'd lean towards two divisions, but if we land on sixteen I'd say let's just go with one.

[Norah]

Agreed.

[Lament]

Let's set 3PM Wednesday as the deadline for new teams to be added. Sunday night will be the deadline for the rosters, and Monday will be opening day.

[Norah]

So if we have 11 or 12 teams I think it should be 6 team playoff with top 2 seeds getting a bye. If we have 13 or 14 teams we can do a 7 team playoff with the top seed getting a bye. And if it's 15 or 16 teams we can just do an 8 team playoff.

Thoughts?

[Lament]

Well, it looks like at the very least we'll have 14. We've got 15 at the moment (counting seconds), so worst case scenario if we end on 15 is that we just drop one of the seconds.

If we end up with 14 I'm down for the 7 team playoff with a bye for the #1 seed. A straight 8 team playoff for 16 makes sense. I'd be surprised if we made it up to 18 teams, so we'll cross that bridge if we get close to it.

Like I said before, I'd really like to land on an even number just so that every team is playing in both sets of games every day.

[Norah]

Oh, I counted 11 I may be blind though.

[numbers]

Chud, hop on an Expos team.

[Norah]

Let me see what I can cook up.

[Lament]

Oh, I counted 11 I may be blind though.

It's eleven in the OP, but Skitch, numbers, Ruddo, and #BRL all want to do second teams (the Reds, Astros, Mariners, and Braves/Brewers).

[Norah]

Yeah, the Montreal Doubledicks will be in this thing.

[Norah]

Looks like I'll be doing something like this:

C: Gary Carter (R) 1982
1B: Andres Galarraga (R) 1988
2B: Jose Vidro (S) 2000
3B: Tim Wallach (R) 1987
SS: Hubie Brooks (R) 1986
OF: Andre Dawson (R) 1983
OF: Tim Raines (S) 1986
OF: Vladimir Guerrero (R) 2000

SP: Pedro Martinez (R) 1997
SP: Jeff Fassero (L) 1993
SP: Steve Rogers (R) 1982
SP: Dennis Martinez (R) 1992
SP: Javier Vazquez (R) 2003

RP: John Wetteland (R) 1993
RP: Jeff Reardon (R) 1982
RP: Ugueth Urbina (R) 1998
RP: Woodie Fryman (L) 1980
RP: Tim Burke (R) 1989

OF: Larry Walker (L) 1994
OF: Rusty Staub (L) 1969
3B: Larry Parrish (R) 1979
1B: Al Oliver (L) 1982
2B: Ron Hunt (R) 1971
OF: Ken Singleton (S) 1973
OF: Warren Cromartie (L) 1978

[Norah]

Montreal Doubledicks Roster and Lineups

C: Gary Carter (R) 1982
1B: Andres Galarraga (R) 1988
2B: Jose Vidro (S) 2000
3B: Tim Wallach (R) 1987
SS: Hubie Brooks (R) 1986
OF: Andre Dawson (R) 1983
OF: Tim Raines (S) 1986
OF: Vladimir Guerrero (R) 2000

SP: Pedro Martinez (R) 1997
SP: Steve Rogers (R) 1982
SP: Dennis Martinez (R) 1992
SP: Javier Vazquez (R) 2003

RP: John Wetteland (R) 1993
RP: Jeff Reardon (R) 1982
RP: Ugueth Urbina (R) 1998
RP: Woodie Fryman (L) 1980
RP: Tim Burke (R) 1989
RP: Jeff Fassero (L) 1993

OF: Larry Walker (L) 1994
OF: Rusty Staub (L) 1969
3B: Larry Parrish (R) 1979
1B: Al Oliver (L) 1982
2B: Ron Hunt (R) 1971
OF: Ken Singleton (S) 1973
OF: Warren Cromartie (L) 1978

vs RHP:
1 S Tim Raines CF
2 L Larry Walker LF
3 R Andres Galarraga 1B
4 L Rusty Staub RF
5 R Tim Wallach 3B
6 R Gary Carter C
7 S Jose Vidro 2B
8 R Hubie Brooks SS

vs LHP:
1 S Tim Raines CF
2 R Andres Galarraga 1B
3 R Andre Dawson LF
4 R Vladimir Guerrero RF
5 R Tim Wallach 3B
6 R Gary Carter C
7 S Jose Vidro 2B
8 R Hubie Brooks SS

[numbers]

Ok, here's the Astros:

C Alan Ashby(1987)
1B Jeff Bagwell(1994)
2B Joe Morgan(1965)
3B Ken Caminiti(1989)
SS Dickie Thon(1983)
LF Cesar Cedeno(1972)
CF Craig Biggio(1997)
RF Carlos Beltran(2004)

B Brad Ausmus(1997)
B Doug Rader(1970)
B Jeff Kent(2004)
B Lance Berkman(2008)
B Jose Cruz(1984)

SP Mike Scott(1986)
SP Larry Dierker(1969)
SP Roger Clemens(2005)
SP Mike Hampton(1999)
SP Nolan Ryan(1987)

BP Billy Wagner(1999)
BP Dave Smith(1987)
BP Joe Sambito(1979)
BP Brad Lidge(2004)
BP Roy Oswalt(2002)
BP Joe Niekro(1982)
BP JR Richard(1979)


Lineup:

Biggio
Morgan
Caminiti
Bagwell
Beltran
Cedeno
Ashby
Thon

[Lament]

I've added the second teams to the OP. Once #BRL decides on which one he wants, we'll have sixteen.

[E.H. Ruddock]

I'm liking the looks of chuds Expos team

[Norah]

Lament, you got the sox lineups wrong in the op. That may be my fault, but here they are:

vs LHP
1 L Tris Speaker CF
2 L Wade Boggs 3B
3 R Manny Ramirez RF
4 L Ted Williams LF
5 R Jimmie Foxx 1B
6 R Carlton Fisk C
7 R Nomar Garciaparra SS
8 R Dustin Pedroia 2B


vs RHP
1 L Tris Speaker CF
2 L Wade Boggs 3B
3 R Manny Ramirez RF
4 L Ted Williams LF
5 L Yaz 1B
6 R Carlton Fisk C
7 R Nomar Garciaparra SS
8 R Dustin Pedroia 2B

[Lament]

Yeah, I've just been copying and pasting. The OP has been updated.