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Bob Loblaw wrote:#TeamClaire

theplatypus wrote:ep 4 spoiler

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MEECHUM NOOOOOO

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the foreshadowing was a little too much, them in the hallway, the deliberate shots of meechum during the speech. you knew something like this was going to happen.

verb_to_trust wrote:I'm on ep 13. Seems like it's just building to nothing.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:I'm enjoying the first four episodes, but I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop and the clusterfuck to start. Maybe it will surprise me.

We watched eps 1-4 last night (disgusting, I know). Some thoughts thus far:

Spoiler: show

It's off to a better start than S3. Some things I like, some I don't. The relationship between Frank and Claire is compelling; it's interesting to see how their different upbringings are informing their outlook now. I'm Team Claire, but I also appreciate the fighter in Frank, especially his skills as an orator.

A couple things that bug me: the story with the journalist released from prison could have been told way quicker. Rather than his trying to build some sort of alliance against Frank, only to try to take him out himself, they could have just had the character get out of prison all screwed up and gone straight to the gun. Reminds me of how True Detective S2 spent four episodes running in circles, only to press the reset button with the shootout in Ep 4 -- If everything is completely different in Ep 5, why not just streamline the plot to get there quicker?

The relationship between Remmy and Jackie Sharpe feel bogus at this point, and I'm sick of him looking all concerned about everything, without having any idea what's going on beneath the surface. He's been one of my favorite characters, but he's starting to wear thin.

And I hate Neve Campbell.

Glad to see the Putin stand-in is back, and that his story might continue to develop into something meaningful. He felt really misused last season, and the move with the Russian seeking asylum/China seems like a bold move for Claire.

There are a couple parallels to real life that are pretty frightening. The complete incompetence of the Vice President is terrifying, and the way in which the big players in this show swap political moves like horse just makes me hate Hillary even more.

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Too much speechifying.

I thought they ruined Claire's character last season, but I mostly forgot what happens in season 3, so this is kind of a clean slate for me. She's been fun to watch this season.

Unlike most shows like this where I end up rooting for the bad guys, I really want Frank and Claire to die horrible deaths. But they are fun to watch.

I agree about Jackie/Remy. What is with Jackie? She's acting like a high school girl. WHy are they so secretive again? I'm sure there is a reason, but I can't remember.

I like Neve Campbell. I always wondered what happened to her.

The Russian guy is fun, and its nice to see Tusk back.

How long is this show gonna go on? They're running out of ideas fast.

BurtReynolds wrote:geez Kate Mara has a smoking hot body.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:I'm enjoying the first four episodes, but I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop and the clusterfuck to start. Maybe it will surprise me.

We watched eps 1-4 last night (disgusting, I know). Some thoughts thus far:

Spoiler: show

It's off to a better start than S3. Some things I like, some I don't. The relationship between Frank and Claire is compelling; it's interesting to see how their different upbringings are informing their outlook now. I'm Team Claire, but I also appreciate the fighter in Frank, especially his skills as an orator.

A couple things that bug me: the story with the journalist released from prison could have been told way quicker. Rather than his trying to build some sort of alliance against Frank, only to try to take him out himself, they could have just had the character get out of prison all screwed up and gone straight to the gun. Reminds me of how True Detective S2 spent four episodes running in circles, only to press the reset button with the shootout in Ep 4 -- If everything is completely different in Ep 5, why not just streamline the plot to get there quicker?

The relationship between Remmy and Jackie Sharpe feel bogus at this point, and I'm sick of him looking all concerned about everything, without having any idea what's going on beneath the surface. He's been one of my favorite characters, but he's starting to wear thin.

And I hate Neve Campbell.

Glad to see the Putin stand-in is back, and that his story might continue to develop into something meaningful. He felt really misused last season, and the move with the Russian seeking asylum/China seems like a bold move for Claire.

There are a couple parallels to real life that are pretty frightening. The complete incompetence of the Vice President is terrifying, and the way in which the big players in this show swap political moves like horse just makes me hate Hillary even more.

random thoughts

Spoiler: show

Too much speechifying.

I thought they ruined Claire's character last season, but I mostly forgot what happens in season 3, so this is kind of a clean slate for me. She's been fun to watch this season.

Unlike most shows like this where I end up rooting for the bad guys, I really want Frank and Claire to die horrible deaths. But they are fun to watch.

I agree about Jackie/Remy. What is with Jackie? She's acting like a high school girl. WHy are they so secretive again? I'm sure there is a reason, but I can't remember.

I like Neve Campbell. I always wondered what happened to her.

The Russian guy is fun, and its nice to see Tusk back.

How long is this show gonna go on? They're running out of ideas fast.

Re: Jackie/Remy's secrecy -- Mrs. Trag reminded me that Jackie got married last season, and her husband has kids.

Who's Tusk?

verb_to_trust wrote:What was the point of Neve Campbell? Pointless character.

verb_to_trust wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:geez Kate Mara has a smoking hot body.

The little boy haircut ruined it