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Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Thu October 20, 2016 1:37 am
by William Bloke
WtOB? wrote:wease wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:This is all very unscientific but I've known people from the "huh, they're still around?" crowd, who own the first three albums but drifted away thereafter, who know who Dave Abbruzzese is. He was the drummer in the band's most successful, most high profile period; if there's one drummer people know, even on a visual level, Abbruzzese is the guy.
Totally agree.
spenno is right.
Yep, for sure.
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Thu October 20, 2016 1:44 am
by Monkey_Driven
I don't think a casual fan pays attention of who a drummer is in a band unless they sing or they are absolutely incredible. Dave A was neither.
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Thu October 20, 2016 1:44 am
by Kevin Davis
Man, I don't think, in 21 years of following this band, I've ever heard one person not on the internet so much as mention Dave Abbruzzese -- not casual fans, not big fans, not anyone. Just my experience, I guess.
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Thu October 20, 2016 1:45 am
by tragabigzanda
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Thu October 20, 2016 2:07 am
by Monkey_Driven
tragabigzanda wrote:I'm gonna have to lean Team Spenno on this one. Granted, my younger circles were mostly musical in nature, but I'd say a significant amount of people recognized Dave's name over, say, Brad Wilk or Cindy Blackman.
Not exactly household names.
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Thu October 20, 2016 2:11 am
by chewm
I mostly just care about Irons.
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Thu October 20, 2016 2:13 am
by tragabigzanda
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Thu October 20, 2016 2:15 am
by chewm
tragabigzanda wrote:chewm wrote:I mostly just care about Irons.
Easily my favorite, but I still don't think he has an unimpeachable claim to a HOF invite, under the rules as I've read them here.
Oh I completely agree
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Thu October 20, 2016 2:22 am
by Birds in Hell
Monkey_Driven wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:I'm gonna have to lean Team Spenno on this one. Granted, my younger circles were mostly musical in nature, but I'd say a significant amount of people recognized Dave's name over, say, Brad Wilk or Cindy Blackman.
Not exactly household names.
I have no idea who Cindy Blackman is.
Pearl Jam were
huge when Dave Abbruzzese was in the band, way bigger than virtually any of their contemporaries. Abbruzzese is a part of that legacy in a way than none of their other drummers are.
Pearl Jam circa 1991-1994 is the only Pearl Jam most people know. Or even want to know; when your average casual fan comes along to their first Pearl Jam show in 2016 or whenever, it's that band they want to see a rough approximation of.
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Thu October 20, 2016 2:27 am
by tragabigzanda
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Thu October 20, 2016 3:06 am
by wease
Birds in Hell wrote:Monkey_Driven wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:I'm gonna have to lean Team Spenno on this one. Granted, my younger circles were mostly musical in nature, but I'd say a significant amount of people recognized Dave's name over, say, Brad Wilk or Cindy Blackman.
Not exactly household names.
I have no idea who Cindy Blackman is.
Pearl Jam were
huge when Dave Abbruzzese was in the band, way bigger than virtually any of their contemporaries. Abbruzzese is a part of that legacy in a way than none of their other drummers are.
Pearl Jam circa 1991-1994 is the only Pearl Jam most people know. Or even want to know; when your average casual fan comes along to their first Pearl Jam show in 2016 or whenever, it's that band they want to see a rough approximation of.
Once again, totally agree.
Cindy Blackman was Lenny Kravitz's drummer back around the same time. She was in the Are You Gonna Go My Way video. I want to say she's married to Carlos Santana now.
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Thu October 20, 2016 3:22 am
by 96583UP
tragabigzanda wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:Monkey_Driven wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:I'm gonna have to lean Team Spenno on this one. Granted, my younger circles were mostly musical in nature, but I'd say a significant amount of people recognized Dave's name over, say, Brad Wilk or Cindy Blackman.
Not exactly household names.
I have no idea who Cindy Blackman is.
Pearl Jam were
huge when Dave Abbruzzese was in the band, way bigger than virtually any of their contemporaries. Abbruzzese is a part of that legacy in a way than none of their other drummers are.
Pearl Jam circa 1991-1994 is the only Pearl Jam most people know. Or even want to know; when your average casual fan comes along to their first Pearl Jam show in 2016 or whenever, it's that band they want to see a rough approximation of.
Yes, and should they ever happen into a Hall of Fame museum (there's an actual museum, right?), presumably the majority of the material will be focused on that era.
true are they going to like photoshop Dave A out of all those photos?
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Thu October 20, 2016 3:33 am
by wease
ridleybradout wrote:Bammer wrote:96583UP wrote:the following individuals will be included in the Pearl Jam Rock n Roll Hall of Fame entourage:
-Boom "unnecessary" Gaspar
-Mike's guitar tech (fills in while Mike's shitting)
-Brendan O'Brien (star of future days)
-Ricky Ramone (that clunking sound on Sirens when Ed dropped the un-tuned guitar in his lap in LA)
-Guy in seattle who got the haircut on stage
-Ted DiBiase (lead singer)
the following individuals will not be included in the Pearl Jam Rock n Roll Hall of Fame entourage:
-Dave Abbruzzese
Haircut guy was in Spokane. I know because I was there, and that sack of shit requested Brain Of J, which they scratched Leash for.
PS- Dave A 4 lyfe!!!!
Let me be the first (of many?) to say...
Brain Of J > Leash
But, Go > Brain of J
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Thu October 20, 2016 3:58 am
by Bammer
For the "Dave A. is meh" crowd... You are underestimating the importance of the china crash cymbal. Fuck you.
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Thu October 20, 2016 4:09 am
by LetMeSleep
And splash cymbals. I myself have two splashes.

Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Thu October 20, 2016 5:30 am
by C4lukin
They really need to include Jack and Dave in this. Even if the Hall of Fame does not recognize them, the band needs to bring those two up there with them if they get inducted. They were not simply session players and wrote songs and contributed to the albums they performed on, and the live performances they were are a part of. It would be petty if the bands excludes them from the stage.
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Thu October 20, 2016 5:40 am
by stip
WtOB? wrote:Oversize wrote:Apologies if it's already been mentioned, but I was thinking about this quite a bit today...
Assuming they get to play at least a 3-song set, what's your best guess?
almost definitely alive to close.
unless its one of those everyone on stage moments, in which case ritfw.
alive, betterman, and given to fly
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Thu October 20, 2016 5:59 am
by WtOB?
stip wrote:WtOB? wrote:Oversize wrote:Apologies if it's already been mentioned, but I was thinking about this quite a bit today...
Assuming they get to play at least a 3-song set, what's your best guess?
almost definitely alive to close.
unless its one of those everyone on stage moments, in which case ritfw.
alive, betterman, and given to fly
i hope they aren't stupid enough to do gtf, eddie sounds awful on that one now. it'll probably be alive, betterman and lightnin bawhmm.
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Thu October 20, 2016 6:41 am
by dimejinky99
Stipe is another could induct them.
Re: Vote for PJ in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations
Posted: Thu October 20, 2016 6:53 am
by bodysnatcher
WtOB? wrote:stip wrote:WtOB? wrote:Oversize wrote:Apologies if it's already been mentioned, but I was thinking about this quite a bit today...
Assuming they get to play at least a 3-song set, what's your best guess?
almost definitely alive to close.
unless its one of those everyone on stage moments, in which case ritfw.
alive, betterman, and given to fly
i hope they aren't stupid enough to do gtf, eddie sounds awful on that one now. it'll probably be alive, betterman and lightnin bawhmm.
Yeah but it will be one of those moments where they haven't toured lately, and Ed's vocals will sound alright bc of it. Plus, he always turns it on for big time performances