Red Mosquito

bodysnatcher wrote:

LetMeSleep wrote:

warehouse wrote:

stonefury wrote:

warehouse wrote:can expand on the boom thing?

Sure. Ever since he has come along, the band's music has headed in a southward-ly direction. So bringing him into the band was a pretty big mistake, in my opinion. I cringe when I see him on stage. His giant meathooks have singlehandedly destroyed a few of my live favorites, too. Other than that though, seems like a jovial fellow.

it seems like boom is more of a point in history for the band than any sort of huge musical influence.

I'd love to have heard Stone's initial reaction....

probably just backwards duck-stepped out of the room

And then the phone call to Jeff, "so this guy Boom is now in the band or moneybags fucks off and goes solo?"

LetMeSleep wrote:

bodysnatcher wrote:

LetMeSleep wrote:

warehouse wrote:

stonefury wrote:

warehouse wrote:can expand on the boom thing?

Sure. Ever since he has come along, the band's music has headed in a southward-ly direction. So bringing him into the band was a pretty big mistake, in my opinion. I cringe when I see him on stage. His giant meathooks have singlehandedly destroyed a few of my live favorites, too. Other than that though, seems like a jovial fellow.

it seems like boom is more of a point in history for the band than any sort of huge musical influence.

I'd love to have heard Stone's initial reaction....

probably just backwards duck-stepped out of the room

And then the phone call to Jeff, "so this guy Boom is now in the band or moneybags fucks off and goes solo?"

"Pssst...Jeff.......Hey Jeff.......is Ed serious about this Boom guy?".......

stonefury wrote: I cringe when I see him on stage. His giant meathooks have singlehandedly destroyed a few of my live favorites

well put

Ed and Boom..... our John and Yoko.

Pearl Jam's biggest mistake: Not reading Red Mosquito.

LetMeSleep wrote:

warehouse wrote:

stonefury wrote:

warehouse wrote:can expand on the boom thing?

Sure. Ever since he has come along, the band's music has headed in a southward-ly direction. So bringing him into the band was a pretty big mistake, in my opinion. I cringe when I see him on stage. His giant meathooks have singlehandedly destroyed a few of my live favorites, too. Other than that though, seems like a jovial fellow.

it seems like boom is more of a point in history for the band than any sort of huge musical influence.

I'd love to have heard Stone's initial reaction....

do u think it would be negative? i dont. ed was already the leader of the band at the time. i think adding a new instrument sounded like a cool and unique idea at the time.

bodysnatcher wrote:

LetMeSleep wrote:

bodysnatcher wrote:

LetMeSleep wrote:

warehouse wrote:

stonefury wrote:

warehouse wrote:can expand on the boom thing?

Sure. Ever since he has come along, the band's music has headed in a southward-ly direction. So bringing him into the band was a pretty big mistake, in my opinion. I cringe when I see him on stage. His giant meathooks have singlehandedly destroyed a few of my live favorites, too. Other than that though, seems like a jovial fellow.

it seems like boom is more of a point in history for the band than any sort of huge musical influence.

I'd love to have heard Stone's initial reaction....

probably just backwards duck-stepped out of the room

And then the phone call to Jeff, "so this guy Boom is now in the band or moneybags fucks off and goes solo?"

"Pssst...Jeff.......Hey Jeff.......is Ed serious about this Boom guy?".......

To be honest, the way Jeff soeaks if RNDM, and the joy Stone feels, still, about Brad, i don't know why the rich dudes in each band don't just bankroll those bands, let Ed do his solo thing, Matt go back to Soundgarden full time, and put PJ to bed. PJ's studio output is whatever anyone thinks it is, but it seems like PJ are really a nostalgia act that has yet to realise it is one. Just embrace it and do the nostalgia tour every.couple of years. They are basically doing it anyway. Why pretend to be something they're not?

Not releasing Stupid Mop as Vitalogy's lead single

fishbob wrote:Not releasing Stupid Mop as Vitalogy's lead single

I've been listening to that song so much.

In all honesty I think their biggest mistake is completely reflected by the fact they still churn out 80% of ten every time they play a show

the audience sure doesn't agree.

Yeah, man. They should keep pandering-- everyone knows that's the road to a vibrant, creatively rich career.

when pearl jam has new material, they play new material. Otherwise they seem to try and play the songs that create the best possible concert experience. That's not pandering. And they are pretty good at it. There are certain records that have always been underrepresented live, and pearl jam stopped using live shows as inspiration many many years ago. 1995 was maybe the last time they were introducing new songs before they had recorded them.

stip wrote:when pearl jam has new material, they play new material. Otherwise they seem to try and play the songs that create the best possible concert experience. That's not pandering. And they are pretty good at it. There are certain records that have always been underrepresented live, and pearl jam stopped using live shows as inspiration many many years ago. 1995 was maybe the last time they were introducing new songs before they had recorded them.

thanks stip, i have a new biggest mistake

not roadtesting songs before an album. pearl jam songs arent like a painting, they evolve in the studio and in a live setting. if they played songs live before putting them on a record they may end up w/ a better record.

Pearl Jam hasn't roadtested material for 3/4ths of their career though. I guess everything still could have been better either way...

when did they stop roadtesting songs? yield? binaural? right around when the quality of their albums declined?

theplatypus wrote:Yeah, man. They should keep pandering-- everyone knows that's the road to a vibrant, creatively rich career.

Exactly!

stip wrote:Otherwise they seem to try and play the songs that create the best possible concert experience.

Relevant article I'm reading in another tab right now:

http://neilyoungnews.thrasherswheat.org ... young.html

If one were to follow some of the reviews of the current Neil Young and Crazy Horse of Australia & New Zealand Tour, one might come away with an impression that the tour isn't terribly successful.

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The Alchemy Tour has polarized the audience based on expectations. And the negative reaction is actually a good thing because it proves that he doesn't just give the audience the hits and leave the stage. No what happens at a concert, is that Neil Young truly challenges his audiences.

I saw a concert last week that left a not-insignificant percentage of the audience confused, angry and feeling like they were ripped off. For me and a number of other people in the room, we saw the greatest performance of live rock n' roll we're ever likely to see.

At this point, Pearl Jam seem happy to be entertainers, trying to please all of the fans all of the time (at least in concert.) There's no push, no confrontation, no challenge, nothing that might subvert expectations. I'll still see them if and when they come through here again and I'm sure it'll be an enjoyable show, but they have the ability do so much more.

What I'd like more than anything, and I've said this a number of times, is the new material to drive the live shows (and everything else that they do.) If they could learn anything from Neil, it's to keep moving. Don't look back. Just keep moving.