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Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 3:59 pm
by stip
i like the phrase mind your manners in this context. I think it's clever title/line, but the vocal melody stumbles a bit in that chorus.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 4:08 pm
by McParadigm
stip wrote:the only one of those I like is ace of spades
you're the worst.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 4:13 pm
by Heathen
McParadigm wrote:
stip wrote:the only one of those I like is ace of spades
you're the worst.
nah, for the first time he's actually right about something there

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 4:17 pm
by darth_vedder
stupidmop wrote:
stip wrote:the only one of those I like is ace of spades, yet I like MYM.
Same.
You two are pissing me off! (not really)

"Career Opportunities" is fantastic. The live version is even better:


Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 4:18 pm
by evenslow
Coach wrote: I do dig this part:

self-realized and metaphysically redeemed
may not live another life
may not solve a mystery
right around the corner
could be bigger than ourselves
we could will it to the sky
or we could something else
what i really like about this section is the sense of optimistic abandon. it's joyful even though it's talking about "not knowing." those aren't easy ideas to square, and i think he's managed to do it.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 4:20 pm
by Jaeti

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 4:21 pm
by Heathen
darth_vedder wrote:
stupidmop wrote:
stip wrote:the only one of those I like is ace of spades, yet I like MYM.
Same.
You two are pissing me off! (not really)

"Career Opportunities" is fantastic. The live version is even better:

I made it to the 6″ mark

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 4:23 pm
by evenslow
Heathen wrote:
darth_vedder wrote:
stupidmop wrote:
stip wrote:the only one of those I like is ace of spades, yet I like MYM.
Same.
You two are pissing me off! (not really)

"Career Opportunities" is fantastic. The live version is even better:

I made it to the 6″ mark
:haha: I love the Clash but this was great.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 4:25 pm
by stupidmop
self-realized and metaphysically redeemed
may not live another life
may not solve a mystery
right around the corner
could be bigger than ourselves
we could will it to the sky
or we could something else

He's basically saying we could do what we want, live life to the fullest etc right? If so then I think he's probably done it better somewhere else. It also feels a bit out of place to me, where the rest of the song is cynical and angry this bit is all uplifting.

Plus bar 'may not live another life' and 'could be bigger than ourselves' every other line is weird and clunky to me.

HOWEVER like I said they're not ruining the song for me or anything. I'm just talking for the sake of talking about pearl jam. I do wish it wasn't in there twice though, it slows the song a little.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 4:26 pm
by darth_vedder
evenslow wrote:
Heathen wrote: I made it to the 6″ mark
:haha: I love the Clash but this was great.
:( :finger: :heartbeat:

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 4:32 pm
by evenslow
darth_vedder wrote: :heartbeat:
:luv:

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 4:40 pm
by ABNorman
stupidmop wrote:self-realized and metaphysically redeemed
may not live another life
may not solve a mystery
right around the corner
could be bigger than ourselves
we could will it to the sky
or we could something else
If it really is "we could something else" (it sounds kinda muddled to me), then that's my least favourite lyric on this thing, especially since it sits so awkwardly on the music. But maybe that's the point, with a lyric like that.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 4:41 pm
by stip
stupidmop wrote:self-realized and metaphysically redeemed
may not live another life
may not solve a mystery
right around the corner
could be bigger than ourselves
we could will it to the sky
or we could something else

He's basically saying we could do what we want, live life to the fullest etc right? If so then I think he's probably done it better somewhere else. It also feels a bit out of place to me, where the rest of the song is cynical and angry this bit is all uplifting.

Plus bar 'may not live another life' and 'could be bigger than ourselves' every other line is weird and clunky to me.

HOWEVER like I said they're not ruining the song for me or anything. I'm just talking for the sake of talking about pearl jam. I do wish it wasn't in there twice though, it slows the song a little.
Cynicism, and anger without hope and direction is a dead end. These bits give the other parts of the song legitimacy

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 4:41 pm
by Coach
I still can't believe that we now have two darth vedders on this board.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 4:43 pm
by evenslow
ABNorman wrote:
stupidmop wrote:self-realized and metaphysically redeemed
may not live another life
may not solve a mystery
right around the corner
could be bigger than ourselves
we could will it to the sky
or we could something else
If it really is "we could something else" (it sounds kinda muddled to me), then that's my least favourite lyric on this thing, especially since it sits so awkwardly on the music. But maybe that's the point, with a lyric like that.
that might be my favorite lyric. goes along with the whole "who the hell knows" of it all. it fits.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 4:43 pm
by Coach
I had leftovers last night, so my wife made me a lunch for today. Eggplant parm sandwhich.

To my surprise, she wrote "Mind your Manners!" on the brown paper bag. I am a lucky guy.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 4:44 pm
by ABNorman
evenslow wrote:
ABNorman wrote:
stupidmop wrote:self-realized and metaphysically redeemed
may not live another life
may not solve a mystery
right around the corner
could be bigger than ourselves
we could will it to the sky
or we could something else
If it really is "we could something else" (it sounds kinda muddled to me), then that's my least favourite lyric on this thing, especially since it sits so awkwardly on the music. But maybe that's the point, with a lyric like that.
that might be my favorite lyric. goes along with the whole "who the hell knows" of it all. it fits.
I like the idea of it, just not the execution in this case.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 4:44 pm
by evenslow
Coach wrote:I still can't believe that we now have two darth vedders on this board.
i already suggested this but we should have a vedder-off and winner gets to be Ed Lion with appropriate avatar.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 4:45 pm
by Coach
evenslow wrote:
Coach wrote:I still can't believe that we now have two darth vedders on this board.
i already suggested this but we should have a vedder-off and winner gets to be Ed Lion with appropriate avatar.
yeah but, in all fairness, darth vedder, the original RM poster, should get to hold onto his name.

I will say that both avatars are cool, though.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 4:47 pm
by harmless
evenslow wrote:
ABNorman wrote:
stupidmop wrote:self-realized and metaphysically redeemed
may not live another life
may not solve a mystery
right around the corner
could be bigger than ourselves
we could will it to the sky
or we could something else
If it really is "we could something else" (it sounds kinda muddled to me), then that's my least favourite lyric on this thing, especially since it sits so awkwardly on the music. But maybe that's the point, with a lyric like that.
that might be my favorite lyric. goes along with the whole "who the hell knows" of it all. it fits.
It's meant to be funny and lazy, imo. Part of the humour. "Well, uh, we could do this, or that, or we could do... somethin' else."