McParadigm wrote:Pearl Jam haven't exactly helped their own case on this topic, though.
Ironically a lot of UK "fans" (and journalists) weren't interested after No Code or Yield, so any research into the middle-period stuff is a hard slog. That means the easiest and most communicable references are the old grunge buzzwords. So I agree that PJ haven't helped themselves, but it's more to do with making those anti-commercial records, I think, than making the newer ones.
Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 3:28 pm
by McParadigm
harmless wrote:
McParadigm wrote:Pearl Jam haven't exactly helped their own case on this topic, though.
Ironically a lot of UK "fans" (and journalists) weren't interested after No Code or Yield, so any research into the middle-period stuff is a hard slog. That means the easiest and most communicable references are the old grunge buzzwords. So I agree that PJ haven't helped themselves, but it's more to do with making those anti-commercial records, I think, than making the newer ones.
I don't remember what we talked about. Just...the sound of his voice, you know?
Breathing heavily into the phone and then, just....laughing and hanging up on me. Friendly pranks, you know? Like when he gave that stalker my address. Just....buddy stuff. Sometimes, now, when I'm...you know...sitting around a campfire, I look around and think about him. It's like...
...suck it, dickbag.
Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 3:30 pm
by harmless
Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 3:39 pm
by stupidmop
I feel like pearl jam is too emotional and sincere for the UK or UK media anyway. It's all about being cool and cynical and shit here.
Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 3:40 pm
by harmless
Yes.
Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 3:41 pm
by 4/5
I'm late to the party. Is there at least consensus that this is absolutely better than Backspacer?
Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 3:42 pm
by Monkey_Driven
4/5 wrote:I'm late to the party. Is there at least consensus that this is absolutely better than Backspacer?
I think that is the general sentiment. It is early though.
Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 3:43 pm
by stip
4/5 wrote:I'm late to the party. Is there at least consensus that this is absolutely better than Backspacer?
that is an absolute consensus. The only person who is not entirely sure yet is me.
Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 3:43 pm
by @SkitchP
Monkey_Driven wrote:
4/5 wrote:I'm late to the party. Is there at least consensus that this is absolutely better than Backspacer?
I think that is the general sentiment. It is early though.
I think I have already listened to this one more than Backspacer.
Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 3:44 pm
by @SkitchP
stip wrote:
4/5 wrote:I'm late to the party. Is there at least consensus that this is absolutely better than Backspacer?
that is an absolute consensus. The only person who is not entirely sure yet is me.
That says more about your opinion of backspacer than it does anything about lightning bolt.
Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 3:45 pm
by 4/5
stip wrote:
4/5 wrote:I'm late to the party. Is there at least consensus that this is absolutely better than Backspacer?
that is an absolute consensus. The only person who is not entirely sure yet is me.
Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 3:46 pm
by stip
@SkitchP wrote:
stip wrote:
4/5 wrote:I'm late to the party. Is there at least consensus that this is absolutely better than Backspacer?
that is an absolute consensus. The only person who is not entirely sure yet is me.
That says more about your opinion of backspacer than it does anything about lightning bolt.
that may be. But backspacer is my number 4, by more than a little bit. So I can't just go throwing around 4 rankings like it's everybody's business.
Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 3:47 pm
by 4/5
I've only listened like 1 1/2 times so far, but Infallible, Pendulum, Swallowed Whole, and Sirens all grabbed me. A couple others seemed decent enough as well. If I end up really liking 4-5 songs on this record I'm counting that as a win.
Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 3:47 pm
by @SkitchP
stip wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
stip wrote:
4/5 wrote:I'm late to the party. Is there at least consensus that this is absolutely better than Backspacer?
that is an absolute consensus. The only person who is not entirely sure yet is me.
That says more about your opinion of backspacer than it does anything about lightning bolt.
that may be. But backspacer is my number 4, by more than a little bit. So I can't just go throwing around 4 rankings like it's everybody's business.
oh stip.
Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 3:49 pm
by 4/5
stip wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
stip wrote:
4/5 wrote:I'm late to the party. Is there at least consensus that this is absolutely better than Backspacer?
that is an absolute consensus. The only person who is not entirely sure yet is me.
That says more about your opinion of backspacer than it does anything about lightning bolt.
that may be. But backspacer is my number 4, by more than a little bit. So I can't just go throwing around 4 rankings like it's everybody's business.
Are we definitely sure that you have the same Binaural and Yield as the rest of us?
Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 3:51 pm
by harmless
4/5 wrote:
stip wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
stip wrote:
4/5 wrote:I'm late to the party. Is there at least consensus that this is absolutely better than Backspacer?
that is an absolute consensus. The only person who is not entirely sure yet is me.
That says more about your opinion of backspacer than it does anything about lightning bolt.
that may be. But backspacer is my number 4, by more than a little bit. So I can't just go throwing around 4 rankings like it's everybody's business.
Are we definitely sure that you have the same Binaural and Yield as the rest of us?
In stip's head, those albums sound like this:
Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 3:52 pm
by Kevin Davis
stip wrote:
4/5 wrote:I'm late to the party. Is there at least consensus that this is absolutely better than Backspacer?
that is an absolute consensus. The only person who is not entirely sure yet is me.
Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 3:53 pm
by @SkitchP
4/5 wrote:
stip wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
stip wrote:
4/5 wrote:I'm late to the party. Is there at least consensus that this is absolutely better than Backspacer?
that is an absolute consensus. The only person who is not entirely sure yet is me.
That says more about your opinion of backspacer than it does anything about lightning bolt.
that may be. But backspacer is my number 4, by more than a little bit. So I can't just go throwing around 4 rankings like it's everybody's business.
Are we definitely sure that you have the same Binaural and Yield as the rest of us?
Stip's record store guy has been laughing for the last 15 years, every time he sees stip, he is reminded that he slipped Days of the New into a couple Pearl Jam sleeves. He is continually amazed that the young professor has not caught on to this day.
Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 3:54 pm
by 4/5
Yellow Moon sounds nice as well.
Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 3:57 pm
by Jaeti
evenslow wrote:
Strat wrote:Many artists, who have been around the block a few times, have numerous songs that are laughable, sub par, or not that great. Pearl Jam is one of them. However, it seems as though Pearl Jam gets bashed more than any other artist for having such songs as part of their larger catalogue. I am sometimes guilty of this and I am unsure as to why....
Not just here on the board either....
Im enjoying Lightning Bolt quite much.
I was thinking about this actually while listening to CCR's version of "Hello, Mary Lou" the other day. It's just a fun little cover that usually makes most of my "hanging with humans in a group setting" playlists. Then I thought if there was an equivalent to RM for CCR when Mardi Gras came out, most people would have found a way to tear it apart for being too light or a cover or whatever (HOW DID THIS MAKE THE ALBUM!). Point being, not every song can or should be put under the microscope. Some songs are meant to be enjoyed without dissection.
Coming back to Pearl Jam, "Let the Records Play" is one of those for me. The casual PJ fans I have talked to about the new album have all mentioned really liking that song and it was good to get an outside world perspective on that. There are no mentions of Shania Twain, they just plain and simple like the damn thing.
