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Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
Posted: Mon December 02, 2024 4:01 pm
by Bi_3
McParadigm wrote:On the one hand, the justice system is entirely broken and regularly harms the innocent. On the other hand, people with extreme wealth or political connections have a way out. The American dream lives on.
Yeah, you're correct here. That is and always will be true with jury trials. Biden complied with the law as it is written and pardon power remains a political lever the President holds. Every President including Trump has sometimes exercised pardons in very morally questionable ways. I do think it's fair for the red team to stomp their feet a bit as America has been sitting through this from the chattering class for a while now:
*I do not agree or disagree with the text of the tweet, this tweet is only used for sharing the video*
Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
Posted: Mon December 02, 2024 9:32 pm
by B
I don't know why the White House feels the need to defend this. Trump's been packing his cabinet with every asshole who ever said they want to arrest every Democrat whoever stood against them, and Republicans have been absolutely obsessed with Hunter for 5 years. Every indication is that when Trump gets in there, they were going to stomp the shit out of him for no reason other than to hurt Joe.
It's gonna do no political damage against the Democrats, and what are they going to do about Biden?
Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
Posted: Mon December 02, 2024 9:39 pm
by tommy
If I were president I would pardon my son for basically anything. I think most parents would. Who cares?
Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
Posted: Mon December 02, 2024 9:42 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE
Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
Posted: Mon December 02, 2024 9:51 pm
by B
tragabigzanda wrote:I need Burt to dig up all the past RM lib takes on Trump's pardons so I know how superior to feel right now.
I have no problem defending this one "broken promise" pardon against everyone Trump ever pardoned. Alice Johnson was the only person he pardoned that wasn't a complete and total piece of shit deserving of all they got.
Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
Posted: Mon December 02, 2024 9:59 pm
by BurtReynolds
tragabigzanda wrote:I need Burt to dig up all the past RM lib takes on Trump's pardons so I know how superior to feel right now.
Not worth the effort. These partisan hacks have the memory of goldfish.
I doubt this will be the only pardon anyway. Doesn't every president pardon a bunch of allies when they leave office?
Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
Posted: Mon December 02, 2024 10:00 pm
by McParadigm
BurtReynolds wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:I need Burt to dig up all the past RM lib takes on Trump's pardons so I know how superior to feel right now.
Not worth the effort. These partisan hacks have the memory of goldfish.
B should just Ipsum Lorum a bunch of his old posts like an absolute wimp, right?
Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
Posted: Mon December 02, 2024 10:01 pm
by BurtReynolds
Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
Posted: Mon December 02, 2024 10:06 pm
by BurtReynolds
Obama was a prolific pardoner. I'm not sure what that was about.
Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
Posted: Mon December 02, 2024 10:19 pm
by wease
Aren’t they all?
Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
Posted: Mon December 02, 2024 10:29 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE
Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
Posted: Mon December 02, 2024 11:06 pm
by spike
Bi_3 wrote:B wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:Biden pardoned Hunter
Ha ha ha! Republicans are mad.
It's a lot.
Politico: We haven’t seen a pardon as sweeping as Hunter Biden’s in generations
So rather than merely pardoning his son for the gun crimes for which he was convicted and the tax crimes for which he pleaded guilty, the president’s pardon covers all “offenses against the United States which he has committed or may have committed or taken part in” from Jan. 1, 2014, through Dec. 1, 2024. That language mirrors the language in Ford’s pardon of Nixon, which did not merely cover the Watergate scandal but extended to “all offenses against the United States” that Nixon “has committed or may have committed” between Jan. 20, 1969, and Aug. 9, 1974 — the exact span of Nixon’s presidency.
Hunter's pardon is broader than Nixon's.
hunter wasn't president
Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
Posted: Mon December 02, 2024 11:20 pm
by Bi_3
spike wrote:Bi_3 wrote:B wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:Biden pardoned Hunter
Ha ha ha! Republicans are mad.
It's a lot.
Politico: We haven’t seen a pardon as sweeping as Hunter Biden’s in generations
So rather than merely pardoning his son for the gun crimes for which he was convicted and the tax crimes for which he pleaded guilty, the president’s pardon covers all “offenses against the United States which he has committed or may have committed or taken part in” from Jan. 1, 2014, through Dec. 1, 2024. That language mirrors the language in Ford’s pardon of Nixon, which did not merely cover the Watergate scandal but extended to “all offenses against the United States” that Nixon “has committed or may have committed” between Jan. 20, 1969, and Aug. 9, 1974 — the exact span of Nixon’s presidency.
Hunter's pardon is broader than Nixon's.
hunter wasn't president
Nixon wasn’t already convicted nor was he pardoned by his dad. The Nixon pardon also avoided a serious Constitutional issue over the limits of Presidential powers.
Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
Posted: Mon December 02, 2024 11:54 pm
by spike
Bi_3 wrote:spike wrote:Bi_3 wrote:B wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:Biden pardoned Hunter
Ha ha ha! Republicans are mad.
It's a lot.
Politico: We haven’t seen a pardon as sweeping as Hunter Biden’s in generations
So rather than merely pardoning his son for the gun crimes for which he was convicted and the tax crimes for which he pleaded guilty, the president’s pardon covers all “offenses against the United States which he has committed or may have committed or taken part in” from Jan. 1, 2014, through Dec. 1, 2024. That language mirrors the language in Ford’s pardon of Nixon, which did not merely cover the Watergate scandal but extended to “all offenses against the United States” that Nixon “has committed or may have committed” between Jan. 20, 1969, and Aug. 9, 1974 — the exact span of Nixon’s presidency.
Hunter's pardon is broader than Nixon's.
hunter wasn't president
Nixon wasn’t already convicted nor was he pardoned by his dad. The Nixon pardon also avoided a serious Constitutional issue over the limits of Presidential powers.
Whereas Hunter’s pardon doesn’t matter at all and will be ancient history by next week.
Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
Posted: Mon December 02, 2024 11:58 pm
by tommy
This feels like the type of low stakes corruption that you'd have to really work to get upset about. A father pardoned his idiot son - who cares?
Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
Posted: Sun December 15, 2024 12:48 am
by BurtReynolds
I thought pardoning chinese spies and pedos and embezzlers was bad enough...
Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
Posted: Fri December 20, 2024 3:16 am
by Bi_3
You’re not gonna believe this breaking news, but apparently Biden has been in aggressive mental decline for several years now
https://www.wsj.com/politics/biden-whit ... d-3906a839
Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
Posted: Fri December 20, 2024 3:43 am
by spike
I thought WSJ was a joke now?
Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
Posted: Fri December 20, 2024 12:38 pm
by Bi_3
spike wrote:I thought WSJ was a joke now?
You may be thinking of SJW, those have always been a joke.
Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
Posted: Fri December 20, 2024 2:24 pm
by Bammer
spike wrote:I thought WSJ was a joke now?
I mean, it’s no Macquarie Street Journal, but they do their best.