Red Mosquito

McParadigm wrote:

Mine wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:Remember when they left Sad off Binaural because they were afraid it would be a hit?

Do you people really believe this? If that was the issue not releasing it as a single would have solved it.
The original tracklist would have had 7 Vedder songs plus a co-writing credit which is 1/2 the album. This would have been the record with the most Vedder songs in their catalogue. Sad and Education were the obvious choice to be left off Binaural in my opinion.

The truth is probably somewhere in between. Betterman was never released as a single, either.

Proabably, yes. I think there are more examples of this in their catalogue, Black i think. It sounds more like a clever excuse than a realistic fact though.

Mine wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

Mine wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:Remember when they left Sad off Binaural because they were afraid it would be a hit?

Do you people really believe this? If that was the issue not releasing it as a single would have solved it.
The original tracklist would have had 7 Vedder songs plus a co-writing credit which is 1/2 the album. This would have been the record with the most Vedder songs in their catalogue. Sad and Education were the obvious choice to be left off Binaural in my opinion.

The truth is probably somewhere in between. Betterman was never released as a single, either.

Proabably, yes. I think there are more examples of this in their catalogue, Black i think. It sounds more like a clever excuse than a realistic fact though.

Probably the same rationale for leaving "Billy Billy Microp_nis" off Lightning Bolt

Mine wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

Mine wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:Remember when they left Sad off Binaural because they were afraid it would be a hit?

Do you people really believe this? If that was the issue not releasing it as a single would have solved it.
The original tracklist would have had 7 Vedder songs plus a co-writing credit which is 1/2 the album. This would have been the record with the most Vedder songs in their catalogue. Sad and Education were the obvious choice to be left off Binaural in my opinion.

The truth is probably somewhere in between. Betterman was never released as a single, either.

Proabably, yes. I think there are more examples of this in their catalogue, Black i think. It sounds more like a clever excuse than a realistic fact though.

I"m not entirely disagreeing.

bodysnatcher wrote:

Mine wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

Mine wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:Remember when they left Sad off Binaural because they were afraid it would be a hit?

Do you people really believe this? If that was the issue not releasing it as a single would have solved it.
The original tracklist would have had 7 Vedder songs plus a co-writing credit which is 1/2 the album. This would have been the record with the most Vedder songs in their catalogue. Sad and Education were the obvious choice to be left off Binaural in my opinion.

The truth is probably somewhere in between. Betterman was never released as a single, either.

Proabably, yes. I think there are more examples of this in their catalogue, Black i think. It sounds more like a clever excuse than a realistic fact though.

Probably the same rationale for leaving "Billy Billy Microp_nis" off Lightning Bolt

Did you skip out of the LB album thread before it was discovered that, by playing Future Days all the way through a hundred and fifty times in one sitting, Billy Billy and Betterman (live) both become available?

Totally worth it bro.

McParadigm wrote:

bodysnatcher wrote:

Mine wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

Mine wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:Remember when they left Sad off Binaural because they were afraid it would be a hit?

Do you people really believe this? If that was the issue not releasing it as a single would have solved it.
The original tracklist would have had 7 Vedder songs plus a co-writing credit which is 1/2 the album. This would have been the record with the most Vedder songs in their catalogue. Sad and Education were the obvious choice to be left off Binaural in my opinion.

The truth is probably somewhere in between. Betterman was never released as a single, either.

Proabably, yes. I think there are more examples of this in their catalogue, Black i think. It sounds more like a clever excuse than a realistic fact though.

Probably the same rationale for leaving "Billy Billy Microp_nis" off Lightning Bolt

Did you skip out of the LB album thread before it was discovered that, by playing Future Days all the way through a hundred and fifty times in one sitting, Billy Billy and Betterman (live) both become available?

Totally worth it bro.

Woah, lemme get on that

Plan accordingly. The last guy to attempt this was Harmless, and nobody's seen him since his subsequent mangled and confused diatribe about heading out the Ukraine to "start some shit" two weeks ago.

bodysnatcher wrote:

Mine wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

Mine wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:Remember when they left Sad off Binaural because they were afraid it would be a hit?

Do you people really believe this? If that was the issue not releasing it as a single would have solved it.
The original tracklist would have had 7 Vedder songs plus a co-writing credit which is 1/2 the album. This would have been the record with the most Vedder songs in their catalogue. Sad and Education were the obvious choice to be left off Binaural in my opinion.

The truth is probably somewhere in between. Betterman was never released as a single, either.

Proabably, yes. I think there are more examples of this in their catalogue, Black i think. It sounds more like a clever excuse than a realistic fact though.

Probably the same rationale for leaving "Billy Billy Microp_nis" off Lightning Bolt

They've said they left Sad off because they gravitated away from stuff that sounded like hits. The same reason Ed apparently changed up Puzzles and Games (and that was certainly a change for the better). I think that logic, even if it made for good music, was misguided; Sad, though it may be catchy, would probably not have been a hit, especially considering they were doing very little promotion then compared to now.

It doesn't really matter to me; it's not like we had to wait a long time to hear Sad (or Fatal or Education, etc.)

The same reason Ed apparently changed up Puzzles and Games (and that was certainly a change for the better). .)

No. Not certainly. Not even probably. Maybe it's a maybe, but it's more likely an unlikely.

hlniv wrote:

The same reason Ed apparently changed up Puzzles and Games (and that was certainly a change for the better). .)

No. Not certainly. Not even probably. Maybe it's a maybe, but it's more likely an unlikely.

Shut up, yes it is.

theplatypus wrote:

hlniv wrote:

The same reason Ed apparently changed up Puzzles and Games (and that was certainly a change for the better). .)

No. Not certainly. Not even probably. Maybe it's a maybe, but it's more likely an unlikely.

Shut up, yes it is.

No, you shut up. Cuz it's not.

#teampuzzlesngames

hlniv wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

hlniv wrote:

The same reason Ed apparently changed up Puzzles and Games (and that was certainly a change for the better). .)

No. Not certainly. Not even probably. Maybe it's a maybe, but it's more likely an unlikely.

Shut up, yes it is.

No, you shut up. Cuz it's not.

#teampuzzlesngames

PNG is great, and has an amazing chorus.

Light Years is one of the absolute high points in their catalogue. Shut up.

its_not_1974 wrote:

hlniv wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

hlniv wrote:

The same reason Ed apparently changed up Puzzles and Games (and that was certainly a change for the better). .)

No. Not certainly. Not even probably. Maybe it's a maybe, but it's more likely an unlikely.

Shut up, yes it is.

No, you shut up. Cuz it's not.

#teampuzzlesngames

PNG is great, and has an amazing chorus.

Light Years is one of the absolute high points in their catalogue. Shut up.

Pick a side and get that fence out of your taint

Team Light Years

I vote neither

Light Years is better. Puzzles doesn't even have a finished second verse it's just a mumbling demo. I do the like the chorus in both, and I like the extended bridge in Puzzles, but Light Years is just the better song. I love the weird changes they made to it.

Came across this song twice on the radio on different rock stations in the past couple of days. Both times, the djs praised the song and the album.

McP - is this one getting any traction yet?

Of the two primary rock formats, it's doing fine on one (#20) and is nonexistent on the other. No cross over plays.

I thought Sad was left off cos Otherside/part 1 wasn't finished!!!