Red Mosquito

epilogue wrote:I'm certainly old enough to remember how maligned that S1 finale was when it first aired. People were so pissed!

psychobain wrote:the explanation was so bad

Mecca wrote:

epilogue wrote:I'm certainly old enough to remember how maligned that S1 finale was when it first aired. People were so pissed!

I think the loudest gripe was that the rich family didn’t have their empire come crashing down?

epilogue wrote:

psychobain wrote:the explanation was so bad

What didn't you like about it?

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Bi_3 wrote:

Mecca wrote:

epilogue wrote:I'm certainly old enough to remember how maligned that S1 finale was when it first aired. People were so pissed!

I think the loudest gripe was that the rich family didn’t have their empire come crashing down?

Searching back here we all seemed very happy with it.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

epilogue wrote:

psychobain wrote:the explanation was so bad

What didn't you like about it?

To me it felt dumbed down. Like they didn't want to take the time to film scenes without narration to show what happened. Both the original murder of the girl and the murders of the scientists had someone laying it all out for us. It was lazy.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

epilogue wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

epilogue wrote:

psychobain wrote:the explanation was so bad

What didn't you like about it?

To me it felt dumbed down. Like they didn't want to take the time to film scenes without narration to show what happened. Both the original murder of the girl and the murders of the scientists had someone laying it all out for us. It was lazy.

Interesting. It didn't feel lazy to me. It felt thematically consistent. I guess they could have just shown the flashbacks. Or the could have just done the explanations via monologue a la The Leftovers. But do much of what the season was about dealt with unreliable narrators and "who is telling the story." I thought it worked really well.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Bi_3 wrote:

epilogue wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

epilogue wrote:

psychobain wrote:the explanation was so bad

What didn't you like about it?

To me it felt dumbed down. Like they didn't want to take the time to film scenes without narration to show what happened. Both the original murder of the girl and the murders of the scientists had someone laying it all out for us. It was lazy.

Interesting. It didn't feel lazy to me. It felt thematically consistent. I guess they could have just shown the flashbacks. Or the could have just done the explanations via monologue a la The Leftovers. But do much of what the season was about dealt with unreliable narrators and "who is telling the story." I thought it worked really well.

I get that, but part of what makes unreliable narrators work in a story like this is that they follow the flow of a magic trick: the pledge, the turn, and the prestige. In this case the pledge was actually the turn, so when the reveal (prestige) happened it was not the restoration of the pledge but the revelation that we had been fooled about which element of the story was actually the pledge in the first place. By doing this the whole story becomes nonsensical and the audience is betrayed.

Totally reminded me of this clip from Role Models: https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxfNAh4w7CVx ... u4KbJnSlo8

epilogue wrote:Yes

Bi_3 wrote:

epilogue wrote:Yes

Then why was there no change in the station or it's staffing? No other companies or scientists research it? Armed guards like at the mine? It's a multi-trillion dollar discovery. Nothing else should have mattered at that point.

bodysnatcher wrote:As someone who has only watched season 1 and this season, I’d say this show is batting about .250. Tbh don’t really get all the hype, by the last episode I was just thinking, “thank god.”