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Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Wed July 26, 2017 1:59 am
by numbers
@SkitchP wrote:
numbers wrote:We're having a crisis right now, Skitch.

You're in first place, right? The Division Leaders are a vulnerable Indians team and a very green Astros team. The AL is a crapshoot this year, there's no perfect team and you have a young roster of position players and 3 Cy Young Winners in your rotation. Relax.
For me, although I am very pessimistic on this team's chances, it's not even really about the success of the team. The crisis is that it's become apparent that the core of this team is a bunch of unlikeable douchebags that I'm going to have to stomach for the next however many years.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Wed July 26, 2017 2:00 am
by @SkitchP
numbers wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
numbers wrote:We're having a crisis right now, Skitch.

You're in first place, right? The Division Leaders are a vulnerable Indians team and a very green Astros team. The AL is a crapshoot this year, there's no perfect team and you have a young roster of position players and 3 Cy Young Winners in your rotation. Relax.
For me, although I am very pessimistic on this team's chances, it's not even really about the success of the team. The crisis is that it's become apparent that the core of this team is a bunch of unlikeable douchebags that I'm going to have to stomach for the next however many years.

You've had Pedroia forever though

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Wed July 26, 2017 2:00 am
by philpritchard
@SkitchP wrote:
philpritchard wrote:Having offensive troubles? May I interest you in the best offensive first baseman in the league?

He's also a Left Handed hitting catcher and clubhouse leader!
Justin Smoak has never caught a game, but he's a switch hitter, so that's a bonus.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Wed July 26, 2017 8:22 pm
by Green Habit

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Wed July 26, 2017 9:23 pm
by Norah
Green Habit wrote:
It's a shame Sale isn't getting any run support. Can't win this game 0-0!

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Wed July 26, 2017 11:01 pm
by Simple Torture
I missed every inning of this game at a job I fucking hate.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Wed July 26, 2017 11:22 pm
by numbers
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
It's a shame Sale isn't getting any run support. Can't win this game 0-0!
To act like that hasn't happened more than a few times this year is asinine.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Wed July 26, 2017 11:40 pm
by Norah
numbers wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
It's a shame Sale isn't getting any run support. Can't win this game 0-0!
To act like that hasn't happened more than a few times this year is asinine.
In the 21 games in which Chris Sale has started for the Red Sox they have scored:

0 runs: 2x
1 run: 3x
2 runs: 2x
3 runs or more: 14x

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http://www.espn.com/mlb/player/gamelog/ ... chris-sale

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Wed July 26, 2017 11:44 pm
by numbers
So 1/3 of his starts they score 3 runs or less.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Wed July 26, 2017 11:47 pm
by Norah
2/3 of his starts they scored 3 or more.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Wed July 26, 2017 11:48 pm
by Norah
And if he makes 30 starts, and we lose each and every one of the starts where they score 2 or fewer (we actually win some of those though) he's a 20 win starter.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Wed July 26, 2017 11:49 pm
by numbers
We're not talking about the expansion Mets, this team is supposed to have a good offense.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Wed July 26, 2017 11:50 pm
by Norah
You're just over-blowing how bad they are.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu July 27, 2017 1:16 am
by philpritchard
The problem with the Sale trade was that it didn't make them a better team than last year, it just replaced Ortiz's bat with an equally dominant arm. I didn't think they would struggle this much, though. There are a lot of good bats in that lineup, but not having that one slugger in the middle seems to have hurt them a lot.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu July 27, 2017 1:22 am
by Norah
That's not problem with the Sale trade, it's a problem with the lack of an Encarnacion signing.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu July 27, 2017 1:47 am
by philpritchard
cutuphalfdead wrote:That's not problem with the Sale trade, it's a problem with the lack of an Encarnacion signing.
Poorly worded, but that's what i meant. Boston was clearly one of the top teams in the league last year, and acquiring Sale would normally be a move to push that kind of team over the top, but in their case it ended up being more of a "keeping them afloat" type deal because they replaced Ortiz with Mitch Moreland.

Not going after Edwin was primarily luxury tax driven, I assume?

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu July 27, 2017 1:50 am
by Norah
philpritchard wrote:Not going after Edwin was primarily luxury tax driven, I assume?
The talk around town at the time was that the Red Sox weren't even interested because they didn't want to have to sign a lengthy contract to get him, which I pretty much agreed with. But then he signs a three year deal with Cleveland that we easily could have topped. It's infuriating.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu July 27, 2017 1:52 am
by Norah
But yeah, it was probably luxury tax reasons. Which to me is equally infuriating.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu July 27, 2017 1:59 am
by philpritchard
cutuphalfdead wrote:But yeah, it was probably luxury tax reasons. Which to me is equally infuriating.
Any kind of payroll limitations will always be frustrating, especially for a team that's just a piece or two away. Owners are the worst.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Fri July 28, 2017 3:18 pm
by numbers
So, now Price is faking an injury to avoid appearing at Fenway. Awesome.