Red Mosquito

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:

HardTI wrote:I'd still throw The End, Force of Nature, and Got Some above crap. Some just barely.

Do people not like the end? I think its a really good song but i don't see it mentioned with the best of backspacer

I'm actually not sure. I think that song is BEAUTIFUL. Although, I don't think it should be considered a Pearl Jam song, but that's a different topic.

harmless wrote:Johnny Guitar might be the only Backspacer song to stand the test of time, imo. My wife doesn't like it either, but she's less patient with PJ these days. She's blanketly dismissed Backspacer as not good enough, and who can blame her?

yeah I dont feel the need to revisit Backspacer anymore. There is no depth there. You either like it or you dont. I wish Johnny Guitar was a little more fleshed out, but I think it still works pretty well.

Instead of listening to MYM over and over again on repeat, I've added it to a little playlist which I am thoroughly enjoying:

1. Mind Your Manners
2. Ole
3. Gonna See My Friend
4. Got Some
5. Johnny Guitar
6. Mind Your Manners
7. Life Wasted
8. WWS
9. Comatose
10. Mind Your Manners

I realize now that I really enjoy all of these songs. Enjoying Backspacer is completely justified based on the strength of the 3 songs above.

And, whoever has a problem with S/T needs to check their head, that album shreds!

HardTI wrote:

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:

HardTI wrote:I'd still throw The End, Force of Nature, and Got Some above crap. Some just barely.

Do people not like the end? I think its a really good song but i don't see it mentioned with the best of backspacer

I'm actually not sure. I think that song is BEAUTIFUL. Although, I don't think it should be considered a Pearl Jam song, but that's a different topic.

Yeah, The End is a definite highlight.

HardTI wrote:

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:

HardTI wrote:I'd still throw The End, Force of Nature, and Got Some above crap. Some just barely.

Do people not like the end? I think its a really good song but i don't see it mentioned with the best of backspacer

I'm actually not sure. I think that song is BEAUTIFUL. Although, I don't think it should be considered a Pearl Jam song, but that's a different topic.

Yeah, I could go with it not being a pj song

The End is a really beautiful song.

tommymctom wrote:

harmless wrote:Johnny Guitar might be the only Backspacer song to stand the test of time, imo. My wife doesn't like it either, but she's less patient with PJ these days. She's blanketly dismissed Backspacer as not good enough, and who can blame her?

Johnny Guitar would be a lot more palatable to me if the Lyrics were better.

I think they do the job it was trying to do.

dimejinky99 wrote:The End is a really beautiful song.

The lyrics get to me almost every time i listen

stupidmop wrote:I'm with you. Maybe if he had just drifted off and said "something else" it could have worked for me Idk.

I agree. A trailing off and spoken 'something else' would've been better but it doesn't bother me.

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:The End is a really beautiful song.

The lyrics get to me almost every time i listen

Do you have kids? Just curious if this song might affect those with kids a little differently. I also can get choked up a bit with this track.

Yeah, I still like "The End" a lot. I just think its placement in a Pearl Jam album is weird.

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:The End is a really beautiful song.

The lyrics get to me almost every time i listen

I've never had a big tears moment like I did the first time I heard the album version.
The bootleg had been on my computer for months and I didn't even know. But it didn't land on me quite the way the album version did. Knocked me sideways completely. Still does sometimes.

I haven't listened it in a while but I remember not really liking eds voice on The End , or just breathe for that matter. I don't really like the melody either. Maybe I just have no soul.

HardTI wrote:

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:The End is a really beautiful song.

The lyrics get to me almost every time i listen

Do you have kids? Just curious if this song might affect those with kids a little differently. I also can get choked up a bit with this track.

I feel that emotion, thanks to having stepkids. It's slightly diminished by the fact that my wife doesn't like the song much though. I mean she's the one with the maternal attachment so my crying over The End feels a bit silly.

Its a beautiful song but I think could have been more effective if it were recorded differently. I dont mind the strings so much but the recording seems a little stale. Would have been better to capture it live with better placed mics in an empty room or something....

The way he sings on The End annoys me. It sounds fake to me. Theatrical.

BurtReynolds wrote:The way he sings on The End annoys me. It sounds fake to me. Theatrical.

yeah me too, too theatrical

Strat wrote:Its a beautiful song but I think could have been more effective if it were recorded differently. I dont mind the strings so much but the recording seems a little stale. Would have been better to capture it live with better placed mics in an empty room or something....

This.

dimejinky99 wrote:

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:The End is a really beautiful song.

The lyrics get to me almost every time i listen

I've never had a big tears moment like I did the first time I heard the album version.
The bootleg had been on my computer for months and I didn't even know. But it didn't land on me quite the way the album version did. Knocked me sideways completely. Still does sometimes.

I actually enjoy some of live audience bootlegs of the song (pre-album) more than the album version. I'm sure its just the source recording, but some strings he picks are more pronounced on the audience recording and I was hoping he would pick it that way on the album version. For example when he sings "People change....." the strings he picks there sound much louder than the rest. This happens really at every line in the early versions (or again just the recordings)
Hope this makes sense.

Heathen wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:The way he sings on The End annoys me. It sounds fake to me. Theatrical.

yeah me too, too theatrical

That was probably it.

I hope they don't overdo the ballads on Lightening Bolt vocally, musically....productionlly.


If the album version of speed of sound was the same as the demo it would be the best song on backspacer. As it stands, its heinous.