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Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 4:40 pm
by Mickey
Ms Harmless wrote:Mickey wrote:Can you tell us under what imaginary situations it's okay to hit Amy Schumer?
I didn't bring up any imaginary situations, you did
Wrong
Ms Harmless wrote:Anders wrote:It shouldn’t be ok to slap someone just because they are a man (like a woman on a man in a bar), or because they are both black men. Flip it and everyone would be shocked, if say Will Smith went on stage to hit Amy Schumer.
that's more complicated than many would think;
if Amy Schumer had a history of being racist towards Will, I wouldn't bat an eye; rich white women get away with too much crap (and in Amy's case, two self-admitted cases of sexual assault)
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 4:40 pm
by tree_
Ms Harmless wrote:tree_ wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:I'm not telling you what racism is Tree
racism is discrimination based on skin color... if a white guy has no power over a black woman, how can he possibly discriminate?
I'm not telling you what racism is Tree
you just tell me what you think it is
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 4:41 pm
by Ms Harmless
Ms Harmless wrote:Mickey wrote:Can you tell us under what imaginary situations it's okay to hit Amy Schumer?
I didn't bring up any imaginary situations, you did
sorry no, Anders did
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 4:42 pm
by Mickey
Yes so as I said: wrong
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 4:43 pm
by Ms Harmless
Anders: "if the tables were turned you would say....!"
me: "not necessarily"
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 4:44 pm
by Ms Harmless
Anders wanted to catch me out on some imaginary gendered hypocrisy; I said it wasn't that simple
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 4:45 pm
by tree_
But you're also saying it's impossible for a black woman to have higher social status(?) than a white man, because of the possibility of him perpetuating racism?
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 4:48 pm
by Ms Harmless
tree_ wrote:But you're also saying it's impossible for a black woman to have higher social status(?) than a white man, because of the possibility of him perpetuating racism?
there are lots of categories of social status; finance isn't the only one, and they overlap in complicated ways
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 4:49 pm
by tree_
Ms Harmless wrote:tree_ wrote:But you're also saying it's impossible for a black woman to have higher social status(?) than a white man, because of the possibility of him perpetuating racism?
there are lots of categories of social status; finance isn't the only one, and they overlap in complicated ways
So which social status am I not privy to? If a black woman is rich, has lots of friends and family, no problems. What is left?
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 4:50 pm
by Ms Harmless
tree_ wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:tree_ wrote:But you're also saying it's impossible for a black woman to have higher social status(?) than a white man, because of the possibility of him perpetuating racism?
there are lots of categories of social status; finance isn't the only one, and they overlap in complicated ways
So which social status am I not privy to? If a black woman is rich, has lots of friends and family, no problems. What is left?
she faces racism
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 4:52 pm
by tree_
Ms Harmless wrote:tree_ wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:tree_ wrote:But you're also saying it's impossible for a black woman to have higher social status(?) than a white man, because of the possibility of him perpetuating racism?
there are lots of categories of social status; finance isn't the only one, and they overlap in complicated ways
So which social status am I not privy to? If a black woman is rich, has lots of friends and family, no problems. What is left?
she faces racism
You're telling me there's not one black person who doesn't face racism? It's virtually impossible?
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 4:53 pm
by Ms Harmless
tree_ wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:tree_ wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:tree_ wrote:But you're also saying it's impossible for a black woman to have higher social status(?) than a white man, because of the possibility of him perpetuating racism?
there are lots of categories of social status; finance isn't the only one, and they overlap in complicated ways
So which social status am I not privy to? If a black woman is rich, has lots of friends and family, no problems. What is left?
she faces racism
You're telling me there's not one black person who doesn't face racism? It's virtually impossible?
that's an amazing question
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 4:55 pm
by tree_
you sure know how to skirt round a subject
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 4:57 pm
by Ms Harmless
yes Tree, that is what I am telling you; there is not a single Black person in the world who hasn't and doesn't and won't face racism
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 4:58 pm
by Anders
Nominees at this year's Oscars got $138,000 gift bags. Incredible.
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 5:00 pm
by tree_
Ms Harmless wrote:yes Tree, that is what I am telling you; there is not a single Black person in the world who hasn't and doesn't and won't face racism
Sorry, but... "the world"? Isn't that going too far?
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 5:01 pm
by Anders
In their entire life that could be true for anyone.
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 5:02 pm
by Malloy
BurtReynolds wrote:tree_ wrote:Why are you apparently unable to see that women can be just as bad as men?
That's his whole schtick. His identity.
who are you talking about?
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 5:04 pm
by epilogue
Malloy wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:tree_ wrote:Why are you apparently unable to see that women can be just as bad as men?
That's his whole schtick. His identity.
who are you talking about?
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Thu March 31, 2022 5:04 pm
by Jorge
Anders wrote:Nominees at this year's Oscars got $138,000 gift bags. Incredible.
I saw some of the items in there... it's obscene lol