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Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 25, 2013 5:28 pm
by William Bloke
This is still a steaming pile of dog turd to these ears.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 25, 2013 5:30 pm
by McParadigm
stip wrote:
McParadigm wrote:The musical "break" after the first chorus always causes me to make a bit of a face (yeah, that face. That's the one), because it really does nothing for the song. It's not like there's such a powerful atmosphere to the verse sections that it requires reintroduction, or anything, and nobody really felt the need to color it up enough to justify it. I just find myself singing "Where-uhs the siiiruhhnnns?" whenever I get to that part.

I couldn't say that it's necessary, but I do think that the length of this song, and the drifting sameness of it, the lingering moment that this song is chronicling, helps it. It's almost 6 minutes but it is a fast 6 minutes, which is remarkable since it's not like there's a ton of movement in the song.

I'm usually arguing for songs to be shorter, but not here.
I'm not arguing anything about the length of that song. That particular section could be alright, if anything whatsoever had been done to make it interesting (not to be confused with "play a solo"). As it is, I don't see why they didn't go right into the second verse lyrics.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 25, 2013 5:40 pm
by warehouse
im startin to really like the chorus on this one. i just think some of the other tunes that leaked shit on this one.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 25, 2013 5:42 pm
by stip
McParadigm wrote:
stip wrote:
McParadigm wrote:The musical "break" after the first chorus always causes me to make a bit of a face (yeah, that face. That's the one), because it really does nothing for the song. It's not like there's such a powerful atmosphere to the verse sections that it requires reintroduction, or anything, and nobody really felt the need to color it up enough to justify it. I just find myself singing "Where-uhs the siiiruhhnnns?" whenever I get to that part.

I couldn't say that it's necessary, but I do think that the length of this song, and the drifting sameness of it, the lingering moment that this song is chronicling, helps it. It's almost 6 minutes but it is a fast 6 minutes, which is remarkable since it's not like there's a ton of movement in the song.

I'm usually arguing for songs to be shorter, but not here.
I'm not arguing anything about the length of that song. That particular section could be alright, if anything whatsoever had been done to make it interesting (not to be confused with "play a solo"). As it is, I don't see why they didn't go right into the second verse lyrics.
oh I know. I'm just guessing that maybe it was related to the overall pacing.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 25, 2013 6:09 pm
by super nintendo chalmers
HoldMyLife wrote:
super nintendo chalmers wrote:

34 seconds.
Nice job!

Ain't me, bud.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 25, 2013 7:27 pm
by harmless
Someone might need to explain to me why this is nothing like 'Sirens'.



It basically contains the same drum groove, the same reverby, sliding guitars, and the same giant guitar solos.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 25, 2013 7:34 pm
by Monkey_Driven
Varis wrote:This is still a steaming pile of dog turd to these ears.
What does a dog turd sound like?

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 25, 2013 7:36 pm
by tommymtcom
Monkey_Driven wrote:
Varis wrote:This is still a steaming pile of dog turd to these ears.
What does a dog turd sound like?
Sirens, obviously.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 25, 2013 7:37 pm
by Monkey_Driven
tommymctom wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
Varis wrote:This is still a steaming pile of dog turd to these ears.
What does a dog turd sound like?
Sirens, obviously.
The song or police/ambulances/fire trucks?

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 25, 2013 7:40 pm
by McParadigm
harmless wrote:Someone might need to explain to me why this is nothing like 'Sirens'.



It basically contains the same drum groove, the same reverby, sliding guitars, and the same giant guitar solos.
Well, if they contain the same checklist items, they must be the same.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 25, 2013 7:43 pm
by harmless
McParadigm wrote:
harmless wrote:Someone might need to explain to me why this is nothing like 'Sirens'.



It basically contains the same drum groove, the same reverby, sliding guitars, and the same giant guitar solos.
Well, if they contain the same checklist items, they must be the same.
I don't remember saying they were the same. But I'm just countering the theory that they sound nothing alike, as some of the Floyd fans who don't like the song would like to think.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 25, 2013 7:47 pm
by McParadigm
harmless wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
harmless wrote:Someone might need to explain to me why this is nothing like 'Sirens'.



It basically contains the same drum groove, the same reverby, sliding guitars, and the same giant guitar solos.
Well, if they contain the same checklist items, they must be the same.
I don't remember saying they were the same. But I'm just countering the theory that they sound nothing alike, as some of the Floyd fans who don't like the song would like to think.
Comfortably Numb bores the shit out of me. Can't stand it. And they sound nothing alike.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 25, 2013 7:51 pm
by harmless
McParadigm wrote:
harmless wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
harmless wrote:Someone might need to explain to me why this is nothing like 'Sirens'.



It basically contains the same drum groove, the same reverby, sliding guitars, and the same giant guitar solos.
Well, if they contain the same checklist items, they must be the same.
I don't remember saying they were the same. But I'm just countering the theory that they sound nothing alike, as some of the Floyd fans who don't like the song would like to think.
Comfortably Numb bores the shit out of me. Can't stand it. And they sound nothing alike.
The songs don't, but the stylistic flourishes definitely do.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 25, 2013 7:55 pm
by McParadigm
I see where your argument is coming from, just as I can see where Mike thought he was writing a Pink Floyd song...just as I can see where Gilmour thought Learning to Fly was going to be a Floyd song, once upon a time.

I just think all three of you are focusing on individual qualities and miss the big picture.

Not a bad crowd to be in, that, though.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 25, 2013 7:58 pm
by harmless
McParadigm wrote:I see where your argument is coming from, just as I can see where Mike thought he was writing a Pink Floyd song...just as I can see where Gilmour thought Learning to Fly was going to be a Floyd song, once upon a time.

I just think all three of you are focusing on individual qualities and miss the big picture.

Not a bad crowd to be in, that, though.
I'll give you "big picture".

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 25, 2013 7:59 pm
by McParadigm
harmless wrote:
McParadigm wrote:I see where your argument is coming from, just as I can see where Mike thought he was writing a Pink Floyd song...just as I can see where Gilmour thought Learning to Fly was going to be a Floyd song, once upon a time.

I just think all three of you are focusing on individual qualities and miss the big picture.

Not a bad crowd to be in, that, though.
I'll give you "big picture".
Wait

Let me get my vasoline

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 25, 2013 8:00 pm
by harmless
McParadigm wrote:
harmless wrote:
McParadigm wrote:I see where your argument is coming from, just as I can see where Mike thought he was writing a Pink Floyd song...just as I can see where Gilmour thought Learning to Fly was going to be a Floyd song, once upon a time.

I just think all three of you are focusing on individual qualities and miss the big picture.

Not a bad crowd to be in, that, though.
I'll give you "big picture".
Wait

Let me get my vasoline
:heartbeat:

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 25, 2013 8:01 pm
by McParadigm
harmless wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
harmless wrote:
McParadigm wrote:I see where your argument is coming from, just as I can see where Mike thought he was writing a Pink Floyd song...just as I can see where Gilmour thought Learning to Fly was going to be a Floyd song, once upon a time.

I just think all three of you are focusing on individual qualities and miss the big picture.

Not a bad crowd to be in, that, though.
I'll give you "big picture".
Wait

Let me get my vasoline
:heartbeat:
I SAID WAIT

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 25, 2013 8:01 pm
by harmless
McParadigm wrote:
harmless wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
harmless wrote:
McParadigm wrote:I see where your argument is coming from, just as I can see where Mike thought he was writing a Pink Floyd song...just as I can see where Gilmour thought Learning to Fly was going to be a Floyd song, once upon a time.

I just think all three of you are focusing on individual qualities and miss the big picture.

Not a bad crowd to be in, that, though.
I'll give you "big picture".
Wait

Let me get my vasoline
:heartbeat:
I SAID WAIT
Sorry, it's been a while :naughty:

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Wed September 25, 2013 8:03 pm
by McParadigm
This has just not been my day