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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015)
Posted: Sun September 28, 2014 7:06 pm
by ABNorman
stip wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:stip wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:stip wrote:I read a book
Good for you! Which book?
Dodger--one of the more disappointing post illness terry pratchett books.
I've never read any Terry Pratchett. Maybe someday.
He's a gift. If you ever do start with Small Gods.
Contentious. I would probably start with the Watch books (so, Guards, Guards). Night Watch is not only my favourite Pratchett, it's my favourite book, full-stop.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015)
Posted: Sun September 28, 2014 7:08 pm
by epilogue
stip wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:stip wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:stip wrote:I read a book
Good for you! Which book?
Dodger--one of the more disappointing post illness terry pratchett books.
I've never read any Terry Pratchett. Maybe someday.
He's a gift. If you ever do start with Small Gods.
That the thing he wrote with Gaiman?
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015)
Posted: Sun September 28, 2014 7:09 pm
by ABNorman
durdencommatyler wrote:stip wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:stip wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:stip wrote:I read a book
Good for you! Which book?
Dodger--one of the more disappointing post illness terry pratchett books.
I've never read any Terry Pratchett. Maybe someday.
He's a gift. If you ever do start with Small Gods.
That the thing he wrote with Gaiman?
Nope, you're thinking of Good Omens. It's good, but a bit disjointed. Small Gods is a sort of stand alone Discworld novel.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015)
Posted: Sun September 28, 2014 7:10 pm
by stip
ABNorman wrote:stip wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:stip wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:stip wrote:I read a book
Good for you! Which book?
Dodger--one of the more disappointing post illness terry pratchett books.
I've never read any Terry Pratchett. Maybe someday.
He's a gift. If you ever do start with Small Gods.
Contentious. I would probably start with the Watch books (so, Guards, Guards). Night Watch is not only my favourite Pratchett, it's my favourite book, full-stop.
that is easily his best series, but Small Gods is a self contained story so it seems easier. I also think guard's guard's is a step below the rest of that stellar series. I wouldn't argue with that choice, though
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015)
Posted: Sun September 28, 2014 7:11 pm
by epilogue
ABNorman wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:stip wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:stip wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:stip wrote:I read a book
Good for you! Which book?
Dodger--one of the more disappointing post illness terry pratchett books.
I've never read any Terry Pratchett. Maybe someday.
He's a gift. If you ever do start with Small Gods.
That the thing he wrote with Gaiman?
Nope, you're thinking of Good Omens. It's good, but a bit disjointed. Small Gods is a sort of stand alone Discworld novel.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015)
Posted: Sun September 28, 2014 7:12 pm
by ABNorman
Yeah, I think Men at Arms is probably a better entry point.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015)
Posted: Sun September 28, 2014 7:15 pm
by LoathedVermin72
durdencommatyler wrote:stip wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:stip wrote:the new ST movies are like when we order broccoli at our favorite Italian restaurant and it's really good because it's just swimming in garlic and olive oil and is no longer really broccoli
I'll continue, forever and ever, to argue that new ST isn't as far removed from old ST as sooooooo many people try to insist.
I am not remotely familiar enough with star trek to comment one way or the other, other than to say that these were not only the first star trek movies I really liked, but they were also the first I didn't find appallingly boring, and not laughably acted.
There is some fantastic acting in the Next Generation moves. Patrick Stewart rips it UP in First Contact. You should watch that one if you haven't already. It's a really great ST movie. It's full of all the things "make Star Trek Star Trek" but also full of wonderful action sequences and clips along at a nice pace. It's really one of the best in the whole franchise, I think.
I'm sure the real Star Trek fan will be around any minute now to tell me I'm wrong.
Hahaha I actually totally agree with you. First Contact is great.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015)
Posted: Sun September 28, 2014 7:20 pm
by epilogue
LoathedVermin72 wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:stip wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:stip wrote:the new ST movies are like when we order broccoli at our favorite Italian restaurant and it's really good because it's just swimming in garlic and olive oil and is no longer really broccoli
I'll continue, forever and ever, to argue that new ST isn't as far removed from old ST as sooooooo many people try to insist.
I am not remotely familiar enough with star trek to comment one way or the other, other than to say that these were not only the first star trek movies I really liked, but they were also the first I didn't find appallingly boring, and not laughably acted.
There is some fantastic acting in the Next Generation moves. Patrick Stewart rips it UP in First Contact. You should watch that one if you haven't already. It's a really great ST movie. It's full of all the things "make Star Trek Star Trek" but also full of wonderful action sequences and clips along at a nice pace. It's really one of the best in the whole franchise, I think.
I'm sure the real Star Trek fan will be around any minute now to tell me I'm wrong.
Hahaha I actually totally agree with you. First Contact is great.
HUZZAH!
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015)
Posted: Sun September 28, 2014 7:23 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Seems like ranking time:
1. The Undiscovered Country
2. The Wrath of Khan
3. The Final Frontier
4. First Contact
5. Generations
6. The Motion Picture
7. Insurrection
8. The Voyage Home
9. The Search for Spock
10. Nemesis
11. Star Trek
12. Into Darkness
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015)
Posted: Sun September 28, 2014 7:24 pm
by stip
ABNorman wrote:Yeah, I think Men at Arms is probably a better entry point.
it was mine (For the guards). I got the impression he wasn't quite sure where he was going with these characters for guards guards.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015)
Posted: Sun September 28, 2014 7:25 pm
by stip
I'm going to start watching into darkness right now just to spite that stupid list!
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015)
Posted: Sun September 28, 2014 7:29 pm
by ABNorman
I have vaguely fond memories of finding Star Trek films incomprehensible as a child, and not being sure whether they had actually talked to God or, um, a star, or something. Which one is that?
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015)
Posted: Sun September 28, 2014 7:30 pm
by epilogue
Now don't get mad at me, but I'd go:
1. The Undiscovered Country
2. First Contact
3. Star Trek (2009)
4. Into Darkness
5. The Wrath of Kahn
6. Generations
7. Nemesis
8. The Motion Picture
9. The Final Frontier
10. The Voyage Home
11. Insurrection
12. The Search for Spock
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015)
Posted: Sun September 28, 2014 7:31 pm
by epilogue
ABNorman wrote:I have vaguely fond memories of finding Star Trek films incomprehensible as a child, and not being sure whether they had actually talked to God or, um, a star, or something. Which one is that?
The Final Frontier.
Not a terrible film, but they painted themselves into a corner with that one. There was absolutely zero way to have a satisfying ending. It totally unravels. But it's worth seeing, especially if you've seen all the others.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015)
Posted: Sun September 28, 2014 7:32 pm
by @SkitchP
The Final Frontier is sooooo bad.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015)
Posted: Sun September 28, 2014 7:35 pm
by LoathedVermin72
The ending is actually my favorite part of The Final Frontier, and one of my all-time favorite Kirk moments. While everyone else is so amazed that they're supposedly meeting "God," only Kirk has the balls to question it to its face. Ask it a question. Call it out. Fucking badass as hell.
I can totally understand why people hate that movie; it's goofy as shit. But that's part of why I love it.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015)
Posted: Sun September 28, 2014 7:37 pm
by stip
clearly no one else on the enterprise was capable of running from a temple or pushing a button on a machine other than its top two officers
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015)
Posted: Sun September 28, 2014 7:38 pm
by stip
this has always really annoyed me about star trek, btw.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015)
Posted: Sun September 28, 2014 7:40 pm
by ABNorman
Galaxy Quest > Star Trek
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015)
Posted: Sun September 28, 2014 7:40 pm
by stip
i bet everyone of those people on the volcano planet who saw the enterprise grow up to be Hitler.