Red Mosquito

harmless wrote:Has this leaked yet?

20 days left (picture just posted on PJ facebook) and this thing still hasn't leaked yet? This is unacceptable, people.

The best takedowns of Tom Waits have always come from Tom Scharpling. He nails it.

I think the only musician I flat out hate (enough to get angry with people) is Mariah Carey. If I see her on the TV, even on mute, I have to leave the room.

I'm pretty easygoing music-wise.

evenslow wrote:The best takedowns of Tom Waits have always come from Tom Scharpling. He nails it.

"I think Tom Waits is pretentious and phoney hey I really like that Metallica Lou Reed record!"

McParadigm wrote:

evenslow wrote:The best takedowns of Tom Waits have always come from Tom Scharpling. He nails it.

"I think Tom Waits is pretentious and phoney hey I really like that Metallica Lou Reed record!"

No that's not the one.

Wouldn't Tom Waits be considered a typical example of acquired taste?

Mine wrote:Wouldn't Tom Waits be considered a typical example of acquired taste?

I'd agree, except for the connotations of "acquired taste", which is usually reserved for slight snobbishness. "Oh don't worry, caviar is an acquired taste", etc.

Though I guess Waits has his fair share of snobbish fans.

I don't think an "acquired taste" is ever snobbish, really, except that some people are snobs and some people are anti-snobs. I find anti-snobbery just as annoying as snobbery. I'll fully admit I'm a snob about things I'm very interested in. Even the most working-class man in the world might be a snob about cigarettes or fishing. I also really, really like caviar but will never be able to afford it.

harmless wrote:I don't think an "acquired taste" is ever snobbish, really, except that some people are snobs and some people are anti-snobs. I find anti-snobbery just as annoying as snobbery. I'll fully admit I'm a snob about things I'm very interested in. Even the most working-class man in the world might be a snob about cigarettes or fishing. I also really, really like caviar but will never be able to afford it.

Perfectly cool to be passionate about stuff. Not cool to be a dick about them if others don't "get" them.

I've never had caviar. Does it taste fishy?

ABNorman wrote:

harmless wrote:I don't think an "acquired taste" is ever snobbish, really, except that some people are snobs and some people are anti-snobs. I find anti-snobbery just as annoying as snobbery. I'll fully admit I'm a snob about things I'm very interested in. Even the most working-class man in the world might be a snob about cigarettes or fishing. I also really, really like caviar but will never be able to afford it.

Perfectly cool to be passionate about stuff. Not cool to be a dick about them if others don't "get" them.

I've never had caviar. Does it taste fishy?

Yeah, I agree; being a dick about anything is just... being a dick.

A little bit fishy. It depends. You won't like it if you hate fish, but it's not as intense as something like anchovies. And you usually use very little of it as a garnish / seasoning.

Not cool to be a dick about them if others don't "get" them

Usually, the very things that other people don't "get" about an artist lead to some of the moments that fans find most entertaining. Even the most ardent Tom Waits fans (hi) enjoy YouTube Cookie Monster parodies of the guy or the occasional moment like this one:



Similarly, Pearl Jam fans have a healthy number of hurdur moments to laugh at, and I have to assume Smashing Pumpkins fans are able to poke fun at Billy Corgan for the following:

1. Everything
2. Everything else
3. Things Billy Corgan is not responsible for

Yeah, the problem comes when somebody can't recognise that things they love can be perceived as flaws.

McParadigm wrote: Usually, the very things that other people don't "get" about an artist lead to some of the moments that fans find most entertaining. Even the most ardent Tom Waits fans (hi) enjoy YouTube Cookie Monster parodies of the guy or the occasional moment like this one:

Those Cookie Monster videos are awesome.

ABNorman wrote:Yeah, the problem comes when somebody can't recognise that things they love can be perceived as flaws.

Or vise versa

Mine wrote: I'll explain it to you.

You should start every post with this.

theplatypus wrote:

Mine wrote: I'll explain it to you.

You should start every post with this.

And end each one with "as was foretold".

ABNorman wrote:I think the only musician I flat out hate (enough to get angry with people) is Mariah Carey. If I see her on the TV, even on mute, I have to leave the room.

I'm pretty easygoing music-wise.

Really? The first half of her debut album is pretty great.

Jaeti wrote:

ABNorman wrote:I think the only musician I flat out hate (enough to get angry with people) is Mariah Carey. If I see her on the TV, even on mute, I have to leave the room.

I'm pretty easygoing music-wise.

Really? The first half of her debut album is pretty great.

Don't test me, sir, don't test me.

If you dont like Tom Waits then you can shut up forever about everything.

Spoiler: show

even though i like the fixer

McParadigm wrote:

evenslow wrote:The best takedowns of Tom Waits have always come from Tom Scharpling. He nails it.

"I think Tom Waits is pretentious and phoney hey I really like that Metallica Lou Reed record!"