Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Sun January 19, 2020 5:53 pm
But I haven't watched the HBO Pope shows, I just started watching this movie. So far it's alright.
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Have you watched The Young/New Pope? I was just posting the other day how it walks a really fine line, using plenty of screentime to call out and portray the hypocrisy and emptiness of the church while still retaining a sense of grandeur and the church's awesome power. I don't want to get into it too much, but the new season does play a bit with the idea of the public perception of Francis vs. how hardline he actually is.theplatypus wrote:I was raised Catholic. If anything that makes it more interesting to me. The rituals, processions, clerical protocol, this is all part of the language I grew up with
I just remembered that you posted about never watching it in the actual Pope thread we have. Give it a shot!Simple Torture wrote:Have you watched The Young/New Pope? I was just posting the other day how it walks a really fine line, using plenty of screentime to call out and portray the hypocrisy and emptiness of the church while still retaining a sense of grandeur and the church's awesome power. I don't want to get into it too much, but the new season does play a bit with the idea of the public perception of Francis vs. how hardline he actually is.theplatypus wrote:I was raised Catholic. If anything that makes it more interesting to me. The rituals, processions, clerical protocol, this is all part of the language I grew up with
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
I really want to see this.Anders wrote:The Square
Hopefully it’s good. Won in Cannes.
Yes of course, hence "well, not quite the opposite, but sort of"theplatypus wrote:Belief is not the institution, nor are myth & spirituality. I get what you mean though
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
I'm, uh, a lot less moved by American evangelism, hahatragabigzanda wrote:FWIW, The Righteous Gemstones isn't really secular, per se. McBride has immediate family members who've devoted their lives to the world of megachurches, and he's drawing on his experience to explore that world in a comical way.LoathedVermin72 wrote:TBH I couldn't be less interested in secular art that's critical of the church. I get it, I know it - it's generally boring in art. I find I respond to the opposite (well, not quite the opposite, but sort of) quite more, in fact: few things move me more than deeply felt Catholic-y beliefs expressed through art (and it doesn't happen very often in movies these days). I think Mel Gibson and Zack Snyder have a lot of that.
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
bune wrote:I think we are using different meanings of ridiculous because I loved the movie for all the reasons you stated. I'm more referring to the use of explosives in all of the barrels and souvenir stands and the over the top violence and gore (the grenade through the jaw for example) that made the movie amazing, I couldn't stop marveling at it.LoathedVermin72 wrote:I dunno, I don’t think it’s a ridiculous movie; it often takes itself plenty seriously. There’s real emotion and growth at play in the characters and their relationships - that’s one of the reasons I love it. It’s the first movie I’ve ever liked Reynolds in because Bay used his smartass humor as a means of developing the character since he’s a detached guy with a fear of intimacy who’s using it a shield.bune wrote:I was watching this and that first car chase had me thinking "man, I wish LV were here so I could see the look of joy on his face." The only part that I didn't like was how goofy Ryan played his role only to have him disarm someone at a pro level and have #7 say "we're going to have to talk about this" and they never do but he goes back to being goofy #1. that was literally the only part of the movie I had an issue with because it stopped being a ridiculous movie and took itself seriously for a few seconds so it took you out of what was going on.LoathedVermin72 wrote:6 Underground is a masterpiece. No joke at all.
also: have you watched The Man Who Killed Don Quixote? That's the other movie I watched with WWLVD in my mind because it's so...improper...for what a film should be and do throughout.
Have not seen Quixote yet. Gilliam can go either way for me, but Pryce and Driver sure sweeten the deal.
and yeah, that's a great read on the way Bay used Reynolds.
I need to watch it again to see this.A year prior to the release Ryan Reynolds posted a video on Instagram of himself talking about how quiet Michael Bay's movies are, while in the background a car explodes. This scene is in the movie and you can actually see Reynolds in the background filming the video for this post.

It was very different. Sometimes excellent, with a sort of laidback humor, and a satire on the art world, and the world we live in. But then sometimes it seems to swing a wide punch and just miss, and other times the movie feels like it doesn't know what it wants to focus on. However, I came away from it amused, instead of annoyed. The best scenes were electric, and very memorable. Worth seeing.durdencommatyler wrote:I really want to see this.Anders wrote:The Square
Hopefully it’s good. Won in Cannes.