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Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Wed July 24, 2019 2:22 pm
by Green Habit
Good job by him.

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Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu July 25, 2019 5:54 pm
by Green Habit

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Sat August 17, 2019 1:50 am
by Bi_3

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Sat August 17, 2019 2:20 am
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Sat August 17, 2019 11:09 am
by Bi_3
tragabigzanda wrote:I’m not installing apple news, what’s this all about?
Sorry,

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... edirect=on

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Sat August 17, 2019 11:25 am
by B
Bi_3 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:I’m not installing apple news, what’s this all about?
Sorry,

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... edirect=on
I'm not subscribing to WaPo. What's this all about?

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Sat August 17, 2019 3:35 pm
by McParadigm
Here.
It is rare that an amicus brief filed in a Supreme Court case is characterized as both a brassy reality check and unprecedented political bullying.

But such is the controversy that Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.) and four other Democratic senators have ignited with a filing that instructs the Supreme Court to either drop a New York gun case it has accepted for the coming term or face a public reckoning.

[New York eased gun restrictions so Supreme Court would drop case. That hasn’t happened]

“The Supreme Court is not well. And the people know it,” writes Whitehouse, who is listed as the attorney of record on the friend-of-the-court brief. “Perhaps the Court can heal itself before the public demands it be ‘restructured in order to reduce the influence of politics.’ ” The phrase is from a poll question with which a majority of Americans agreed.

Democratic Sens. Mazie Hirono (Hawaii), Richard Blumenthal (Conn.) Richard J. Durbin (Ill.) and Kirsten Gillibrand (N.Y.) joined the incendiary brief, which questions whether the court’s conservative majority — nominated by three Republican presidents — is motivated by partisan intent and is in the pocket of the National Rifle Association and the Federalist Society, a conservative legal group.

“Out in the real world, Americans are murdered each day with firearms in classrooms or movie theaters or churches or city streets, and a generation of preschoolers is being trained in active-shooter survival drills,” Whitehouse writes. “In the cloistered confines of this Court, and notwithstanding the public imperatives of these massacres, the NRA and its allies brashly presume, in word and deed, that they have a friendly audience for their ‘project.’ ”

The brief has lit up the right. Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) called it an extraordinary threat from one branch of government to another and tweeted: “Packing the Supreme Court . . . Bad idea. Liberal dream. Trump’s 3rd term is looking better and better.”

The Wall Street Journal editorial board dubbed it the opposite of an amicus filing — an “enemy-of-the-court brief” — and the National Review’s David French called it “astonishing.”

“It is easily the most malicious Supreme Court brief I’ve ever seen,” he wrote. “And it comes not from an angry or unhinged private citizen, but from five Democratic members of the United States Senate.”

In an interview, Whitehouse was unapologetic, saying he was cautioning the court, not threatening it.

“In the same way that you might warn somebody walking out on thin ice — ‘Hey, the ice is thin out there, you want to be careful, maybe you want to come in’ — I think that was the motivation for filing this brief,” said the former U.S. attorney and state attorney general.

“To warn the court that it already has its reputation in some degree of trouble . . . it’s getting to the danger that they might fall through the ice.”

The Supreme Court in January said it would hear New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. City of New York, a case involving some unique-to-New-York restrictions on how gun owners with permits may transport their weapons. The rules were so strict that they forbade taking an unloaded weapon to a firing range outside the city or to a permit-holder’s second home within the state.

It is the first Second Amendment case the court has accepted in a decade, and it came after the NRA-endorsed Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh replaced the more moderate Justice Anthony M. Kennedy on the closely divided court. Gun-control advocates worried that the case would provide a chance for the new majority to establish a right to carry a weapon outside the home, or impose heightened judicial scrutiny on gun control laws.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Sat August 17, 2019 3:41 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Sat August 17, 2019 3:52 pm
by Bi_3
tragabigzanda wrote:
McParadigm wrote:Here.
It is rare that an amicus brief filed in a Supreme Court case is characterized as both a brassy reality check and unprecedented political bullying.

But such is the controversy that Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.) and four other Democratic senators have ignited with a filing that instructs the Supreme Court to either drop a New York gun case it has accepted for the coming term or face a public reckoning.

[New York eased gun restrictions so Supreme Court would drop case. That hasn’t happened]

“The Supreme Court is not well. And the people know it,” writes Whitehouse, who is listed as the attorney of record on the friend-of-the-court brief. “Perhaps the Court can heal itself before the public demands it be ‘restructured in order to reduce the influence of politics.’ ” The phrase is from a poll question with which a majority of Americans agreed.

Democratic Sens. Mazie Hirono (Hawaii), Richard Blumenthal (Conn.) Richard J. Durbin (Ill.) and Kirsten Gillibrand (N.Y.) joined the incendiary brief, which questions whether the court’s conservative majority — nominated by three Republican presidents — is motivated by partisan intent and is in the pocket of the National Rifle Association and the Federalist Society, a conservative legal group.

“Out in the real world, Americans are murdered each day with firearms in classrooms or movie theaters or churches or city streets, and a generation of preschoolers is being trained in active-shooter survival drills,” Whitehouse writes. “In the cloistered confines of this Court, and notwithstanding the public imperatives of these massacres, the NRA and its allies brashly presume, in word and deed, that they have a friendly audience for their ‘project.’ ”

The brief has lit up the right. Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) called it an extraordinary threat from one branch of government to another and tweeted: “Packing the Supreme Court . . . Bad idea. Liberal dream. Trump’s 3rd term is looking better and better.”

The Wall Street Journal editorial board dubbed it the opposite of an amicus filing — an “enemy-of-the-court brief” — and the National Review’s David French called it “astonishing.”

“It is easily the most malicious Supreme Court brief I’ve ever seen,” he wrote. “And it comes not from an angry or unhinged private citizen, but from five Democratic members of the United States Senate.”

In an interview, Whitehouse was unapologetic, saying he was cautioning the court, not threatening it.

“In the same way that you might warn somebody walking out on thin ice — ‘Hey, the ice is thin out there, you want to be careful, maybe you want to come in’ — I think that was the motivation for filing this brief,” said the former U.S. attorney and state attorney general.

“To warn the court that it already has its reputation in some degree of trouble . . . it’s getting to the danger that they might fall through the ice.”

The Supreme Court in January said it would hear New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. City of New York, a case involving some unique-to-New-York restrictions on how gun owners with permits may transport their weapons. The rules were so strict that they forbade taking an unloaded weapon to a firing range outside the city or to a permit-holder’s second home within the state.

It is the first Second Amendment case the court has accepted in a decade, and it came after the NRA-endorsed Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh replaced the more moderate Justice Anthony M. Kennedy on the closely divided court. Gun-control advocates worried that the case would provide a chance for the new majority to establish a right to carry a weapon outside the home, or impose heightened judicial scrutiny on gun control laws.
I’m not learning how to read, can someone do an interpretive dance of this?

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Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Sat August 17, 2019 3:52 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Sat August 17, 2019 3:57 pm
by Bi_3
tragabigzanda wrote:Omg we’re doomed!
Interpretation of the law based on the demands of the mob is kinda antithetical to the Supreme Court.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Sat August 17, 2019 4:01 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Sat August 17, 2019 10:58 pm
by Mickey
Isn't it interesting how when you say "the mob" it sounds like you're defending transhistorical values from a degenerate minority, but if you were to say, for example, that you were against "interpretation of the law based on the will of the people," it might sound a lot less virtuous.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Mon August 19, 2019 3:36 am
by Green Habit
This seems like an odd hill for these senators to go after considering that the Court has heard no 2A cases since Heller and McDonald. Kennedy clearly didn't want to push its boundaries further, and I'm not sure whether Roberts will, either. I wish these senators had instead played this card when the gerrymandering cases were percolating a couple years ago.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Mon August 19, 2019 3:27 pm
by 4/5
Green Habit wrote:This seems like an odd hill for these senators to go after considering that the Court has heard no 2A cases since Heller and McDonald. Kennedy clearly didn't want to push its boundaries further, and I'm not sure whether Roberts will, either. I wish these senators had instead played this card when the gerrymandering cases were percolating a couple years ago.
“Out in the real world, Americans' voting rights are murdered each decade by partisan state representatives wielding high tech data analysis firearms pinpointing people in certain classrooms or movie theaters or churches or city streets to be disenfranchised, and a generation of preschoolers is being trained in cracking and packing drills in which they are encouraged to vote even though congressional districts have been drawn to preordain a winner before an election takes place,” Whitehouse writes. “In the cloistered confines of this Court, and notwithstanding the public imperatives of these voting rights massacres, its allies brashly presume, in word and deed, that they have a friendly audience for their ‘project.’ ”

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Mon August 19, 2019 4:26 pm
by Green Habit
4/5 wrote:
Green Habit wrote:This seems like an odd hill for these senators to go after considering that the Court has heard no 2A cases since Heller and McDonald. Kennedy clearly didn't want to push its boundaries further, and I'm not sure whether Roberts will, either. I wish these senators had instead played this card when the gerrymandering cases were percolating a couple years ago.
“Out in the real world, Americans' voting rights are murdered each decade by partisan state representatives wielding high tech data analysis firearms pinpointing people in certain classrooms or movie theaters or churches or city streets to be disenfranchised, and a generation of preschoolers is being trained in cracking and packing drills in which they are encouraged to vote even though congressional districts have been drawn to preordain a winner before an election takes place,” Whitehouse writes. “In the cloistered confines of this Court, and notwithstanding the public imperatives of these voting rights massacres, its allies brashly presume, in word and deed, that they have a friendly audience for their ‘project.’ ”
:thumbsup: I'd say send this to your senators, but they're both Republicans.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Fri August 23, 2019 9:44 pm
by Bi_3

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Fri August 23, 2019 10:33 pm
by BurtReynolds
Mickey wrote:Isn't it interesting how when you say "the mob" it sounds like you're defending transhistorical values from a degenerate minority, but if you were to say, for example, that you were against "interpretation of the law based on the will of the people," it might sound a lot less virtuous.
Mickey: Man of the People

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu September 19, 2019 1:51 pm
by Green Habit

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu September 19, 2019 3:13 pm
by B
I don't know how to process that information.