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Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 4:52 am
by Rob
McParadigm wrote:There’s just no world where the way to fix public fury at murderous police impunity is to expect people to calm down while police continue to CAUSELESSLY ASSAULT THEM with impunity. That’s it. That’s the whole thing. I don’t care about your politics or your opinion about the protesters or any of it.

Among other things, expecting a population to calm down in the face of THIS runs counter to every facet of the ideology that says forced masks are tyranny.
This video is fucking insane. God damn, I hadn't seen this. Reinforces my belief that when a Republican talks about "big government", they're confused. I don't mean to sound condescending, true conservatives will be as angry as anyone, but that group of people has been shown to be tiny & powerless.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 4:56 am
by Stickman
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Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 4:58 am
by Superblood Wolfmoon
Stickman wrote:Image
Pretty much.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 4:59 am
by McParadigm
Mickey wrote:Just a quick follow-up to Josh's extended performance of not-getting-it:

The idea that you should not unilaterally believe any source, mainstream or otherwise, is something I've taught (and been taught how to teach) in Writing/Composition 101 at multiple R1 universities across the country. It is basically standard practice for any program of critical thinking at the freshman level.
Didn’t that argument start with Josh quoting news orgs who were reporting on outside agitators?

And didn’t it turn out that those news orgs were directly quoting city administrations?

And didn’t those same administrations later say they were repeating inaccurate information given to them by...the police?

And don’t the cops fucking suck?

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 5:01 am
by Simple Torture
McParadigm wrote:And don’t the cops fucking suck?
I've heard, but don't quote me here, that they are the worst.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 5:04 am
by PHATJ
McParadigm wrote:
Mickey wrote:Just a quick follow-up to Josh's extended performance of not-getting-it:

The idea that you should not unilaterally believe any source, mainstream or otherwise, is something I've taught (and been taught how to teach) in Writing/Composition 101 at multiple R1 universities across the country. It is basically standard practice for any program of critical thinking at the freshman level.
Didn’t that argument start with Josh quoting news orgs who were reporting on outside agitators?

And didn’t it turn out that those news orgs were directly quoting city administrations?

And didn’t those same administrations later say they were repeating inaccurate information given to them by...the police?

And don’t the cops fucking suck?
And isn’t that why I generally mock and distrust the mainstream media? And isn’t that why I have not defended the police once in this situation? And isn’t that exactly why I push for a less powerful and overreaching government? I mean, you are basically proving the point that I’ve made forever that the mainstream media is just a mouthpiece for the leftist politicians that constantly lie to our faces.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 5:07 am
by macphisto
McParadigm wrote:You look at people whose values and desires are different from you and can’t see anything but hate. And in that righteousness, you are able to recognize the falseness of any evidence to the contrary.

There’s a lot of this attitude in the place where I grew up, and my experience is that the people who enter into it often have very little trouble reaching the next logical step: when I hurt you, it is justified.
I see this in verb more than anyone here.
verb_to_trust wrote:If you support Trump you are a racist. Full stop.
I have no doubt you’d participate in the wholesale execution of conservatives...women, children, the elderly...gas ‘em all because they’re not humans, they’re RACISTS.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 5:11 am
by Iholdthepain
macphisto wrote:
McParadigm wrote:You look at people whose values and desires are different from you and can’t see anything but hate. And in that righteousness, you are able to recognize the falseness of any evidence to the contrary.

There’s a lot of this attitude in the place where I grew up, and my experience is that the people who enter into it often have very little trouble reaching the next logical step: when I hurt you, it is justified.
I see this in verb more than anyone here.
verb_to_trust wrote:If you support Trump you are a racist. Full stop.
I have no doubt you’d participate in the wholesale execution of conservatives...women, children, the elderly...gas ‘em all because they’re not humans, they’re RACISTS.
ok, so that's enlightening... say some shit like that. did you see the video above.

blind.

can't defeat dumb.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 5:29 am
by verb_to_trust
macphisto wrote:
McParadigm wrote:You look at people whose values and desires are different from you and can’t see anything but hate. And in that righteousness, you are able to recognize the falseness of any evidence to the contrary.

There’s a lot of this attitude in the place where I grew up, and my experience is that the people who enter into it often have very little trouble reaching the next logical step: when I hurt you, it is justified.
I see this in verb more than anyone here.
verb_to_trust wrote:If you support Trump you are a racist. Full stop.
I have no doubt you’d participate in the wholesale execution of conservatives...women, children, the elderly...gas ‘em all because they’re not humans, they’re RACISTS.
If you support Trump, after 3 and a half years of everything he has said and done, and have not, you know, had a change of heart, you are a racist.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 5:32 am
by PHATJ
Btw, as a point of reference, I went to high school in the neighborhood that has been destroyed by these riots. I spent time at some of these businesses. I literally have dozens of friends in the immediate area. My connection to this area dates back to my grandparents. They went to the same high school. My parents met as 10th graders in the same school. I’ve spent literally YEARS of my life in these very locations. My personal connection to this situation is significant. And I have a far greater understanding of these neighborhoods and the demographics than all of you combined. I know you will continue to dismiss my insights and personal knowledge because you hate Trump. Whatever. This is personal to me. There are friends and extended family that I currently have living amongst this chaos, and I trust their firsthand insight and experiences.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 5:33 am
by verb_to_trust
Trump is a racist, and since you back him, that makes you racist too. Own that.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 5:34 am
by Superblood Wolfmoon
“Insights” :lol:

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 5:37 am
by Iholdthepain
PHATJ wrote:Btw, as a point of reference, I went to high school in the neighborhood that has been destroyed by these riots. I spent time at some of these businesses. I literally have dozens of friends in the immediate area. My connection to this area dates back to my grandparents. They went to the same high school. My parents met as 10th graders in the same school. I’ve spent literally YEARS of my life in these very locations. My personal connection to this situation is significant. And I have a far greater understanding of these neighborhoods and the demographics than all of you combined. I know you will continue to dismiss my insights and personal knowledge because you hate Trump. Whatever. This is personal to me. There are friends and extended family that I currently have living amongst this chaos, and I trust their firsthand insight and experiences.
you don't have a greater understanding of the video I watched of George Floyd getting killed, his 'official' autopsy results, and the video of your white neighbor getting shot at by the police while on her own front porch...,

so get the fuck out of here with that snooty-ass bullshit!

it's systemic, which is why what you see happening is necessary.

"We tried taking a knee, but that didn't work." -Ice T

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 5:38 am
by verb_to_trust
I bought a TV stand at the Ikea by the mall of America a few years ago.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 5:40 am
by Superblood Wolfmoon
I liked Kirby Puckett when I was a kid.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 5:42 am
by Rob
PHATJ wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
Mickey wrote:Just a quick follow-up to Josh's extended performance of not-getting-it:

The idea that you should not unilaterally believe any source, mainstream or otherwise, is something I've taught (and been taught how to teach) in Writing/Composition 101 at multiple R1 universities across the country. It is basically standard practice for any program of critical thinking at the freshman level.
Didn’t that argument start with Josh quoting news orgs who were reporting on outside agitators?

And didn’t it turn out that those news orgs were directly quoting city administrations?

And didn’t those same administrations later say they were repeating inaccurate information given to them by...the police?

And don’t the cops fucking suck?
And isn’t that why I generally mock and distrust the mainstream media? And isn’t that why I have not defended the police once in this situation? And isn’t that exactly why I push for a less powerful and overreaching government? I mean, you are basically proving the point that I’ve made forever that the mainstream media is just a mouthpiece for the leftist politicians that constantly lie to our faces.

At some point you guys will have to tell us what the good media is. You're saying popular/mainstream media shouldn't be trusted. Where should we go? For as long as you ignore this question, we should ignore your viewpoint on it.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 5:42 am
by PHATJ
verb_to_trust wrote:Trump is a racist, and since you back him, that makes you racist too. Own that.
Verb, nothing about you is redeeming. Nothing about you is good. You are nothing and you mean nothing. Own that.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 5:44 am
by simple schoolboy
Welp, shits getting interesing in Texas.
I wonder if cops in CA will start ignoring open carry laws if they perceive individuals to be on the side of maintaining order.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 5:46 am
by Superblood Wolfmoon
Oh yeah throwing armed civilians into this is a great idea.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 5:48 am
by macphisto
verb_to_trust wrote:Trump is a racist, and since you back him, that makes you racist too. Own that.
Go fuck yourself. :)