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Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 9:27 pm
by VinylGuy
tragabigzanda wrote:So I wanna talk Parasite, specifically a couple technical aspects, and then a question for those who've seen it:
Spoiler: show
Two technical aspects I really appreciated:

1. The lighting was phenomenal. Dark basements, sunny lawns, dim interiors, monsoon-soaked streets in the night, and more... And I could see everything, every detail, no shitty shadow stuff or saturated lighting.

2. I really loved how intimately I understood the layout of that house. The second story is maybe a little confusing still, but the ground floor, the layout of the rooms, and garage entrance up the stairs to the main landing, the leading from the antique case down to the basement, and from there the L-shaped stairway leading down to the subterranean dwelling. It's rare that a complex physical space is so well defined in film, I think.

Thematically, I'm trying to pick something apart and hoping you guys can weigh in. Obviously this film is like a masterclass in repeatedly reinforcing its main themes, and I love how he folds ideas back on themselves over and over again.

But thinking specifically about the Kim family's individual arcs, I'm trying to find deeper meaning in the daughter's story specifically...

Son: Is gifted the stone, tries to give the stone to the couple beneath the house to bring them good fortune, winds up nearly killed by the stone, and ultimately trapped back in the basement dwelling, alone with his mother.

Mom: While the rest of the Kim family was eager to see some upward mobility, her appreciation of the opportunities to prey on the Park family was more mean-spirited; she seemed to take joy in fleecing them, beyond what fortune it could bring her own family. And so it makes thematic sense that she's sent back to her basement dwelling, with her negative outlook and forced to clean her toxic belongings, without her husband or daughter.

Dad: Starts the story in a basement, beholden to his family, eating shitty food, vulnerable to the elements. Ends the story in a basement, but without anyone relying on him, with better access to better food, and hey! He's got some books, some wi-fi, and no real threat from the elements.

Daughter: This is where I get a little lost. She starts as perhaps the most gifted of the family, and she applies those gifts to get really close with the artistic Park son. Then she is killed while delivering a cake to the Park boy on his birthday. But is there some deeper meaning to her arc that I am missing?
I loved how well he shows the house. I wanna know how much of that house is a studio, im betting the basement is. The camera movement through the house, the photography..is all top notch. The shots in the rain!! fuck, great material.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 9:28 pm
by epilogue
I need to think about your specific questions here, trag. But I just want to say that I agree with a lot of the other stuff you said in your post.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 9:29 pm
by LoathedVermin72
tragabigzanda wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Yes the best lighting is lighting that shows all details, none of those pesky shadows
I'm sure it's different in your amazing set up, but considering I'm typically streaming on a TCL Roku TV, I'ce come to despite extreme shadows that typically come out blocky.
This makes me want to cry

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 9:29 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 9:29 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 9:31 pm
by VinylGuy
yeah about that...
Spoiler: show
I also need to think about it more....i agree that the mom was pretty mean with the family and the dad took the hardest blow when his daughter dies. Im not sure really about her....i think she was dragged with her family to her very end. The consecuence of what they did.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 9:33 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 10:17 pm
by VinylGuy
The Beach Bum.

The movie just so fucking stunning. It felt like a movie written by Hunter Thompson.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 10:39 pm
by BurtReynolds
I really liked the setting and lighting of Parasite as well. The house was a character in the movie, and it really helped tell the story as well.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 10:43 pm
by LoathedVermin72
BurtReynolds wrote:I really liked the setting and lighting of Parasite as well. The house was a character in the movie, and it really helped tell the story as well.
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Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 10:44 pm
by BurtReynolds
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:I really liked the setting and lighting of Parasite as well. The house was a character in the movie, and it really helped tell the story as well.
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You are mentally ill.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 10:47 pm
by LoathedVermin72
BurtReynolds wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:I really liked the setting and lighting of Parasite as well. The house was a character in the movie, and it really helped tell the story as well.
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You are mentally ill.
Describing a setting as a character is one of my hugest pet peeves in movie discussion. It’s such a completely nonsense thing to say. Makes zero sense. I don’t think it means what you are trying to say (because it means nothing and is impossible).

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 10:48 pm
by BurtReynolds
It is what it is.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 10:53 pm
by bart
What about Monster House

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 10:54 pm
by BurtReynolds
What about the TV show "House"?

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 10:55 pm
by Jorge
One time we had a TV characters tournament and Skitch picked the island from Lost as a character and it caused an intense board schism

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 11:01 pm
by BurtReynolds
What about the island from "The Island", directed by Michael Bay?

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 11:13 pm
by BurtReynolds
I don't want to make a big deal about it, but I'll just say the layout and design of the house really helped with the sometimes complicated actions. Most modern filmmakers skip over these details, claiming they aren't necessary, but I suspect they simply don't know how to fill them in. They end up feeling muddy and lose impact.

And I remember it very clearly despite seeing it months ago.

Plus, I want to live there.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 11:19 pm
by Jorge
Wow sorry it wasn't Skitch who picked the island, it was KAM

Ridiculously dumb debate starts here: http://archive.theskyiscrape.com/viewto ... 5#p3086108

And of course I had the correct take

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 11:22 pm
by BurtReynolds
Sounds like something Skitch would do though.